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Ian640 01-23-2007 03:06 PM

Cost of Baja 500
 
Hi,

I've considering an attempt at the Baja 500 in a few years time, my enthusiasm partly fuelled by reading of competitor's exploits in the event on this site (I recall neduro's report).

Can anyone who's done the event on a motorcycle give me an idea of the costs involved? An itemised list would be even better.

Thanks,

Ian.

hamfisted 01-23-2007 04:19 PM

I wanna know too!!
Planning to do the Baja 1000 in 2010.
Baja 500 sooner.
Jim
05 Beta RR450

flyingbeard 01-23-2007 04:24 PM

Me too
 
+1

flyingbeard 01-23-2007 04:47 PM

Here is info on Bike Costs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian640
Hi,

I've considering an attempt at the Baja 500 in a few years time, my enthusiasm partly fuelled by reading of competitor's exploits in the event on this site (I recall neduro's report).

Can anyone who's done the event on a motorcycle give me an idea of the costs involved? An itemised list would be even better.

Thanks,

Ian.

Hi Ian,
Here is some info on the cost of leasing a bike to race (Husky). I just got this today from BajaHusky. I will send you a PM will all the details FYI

Lease for Score Baja racing:
  1. 2007 TC 250, 450 or 510 for race lease for 7 days.................$7, 500.00 + a $6,000.00 Security deposit
  2. Security Deposit is fully refundable 30 days after the bike returns and is deemed in the same shape as it left. Otherwise, the deposit pays for all repairs needing done or if the bike doesn't come back during the contract period (usually 7 calender days)
  3. Any repairs to the bike or total replacement comes from the refundable security deposit funds.
  4. 2nd race of the calender year on the same size bike would be $5,000.00 + $6,000.00 Security Deposit
  5. 3rd race of the calender year on the same size bike would be $3500.00 + $6,000.00 Security Deposit.
Buy the Race Prepped Bike for $9, 900.00 and then have it shipped home.
(Lots of stuff, on the Race Bike)



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WONB2K 01-23-2007 05:36 PM

For your first Baja race I'd strongly suggest contacting Tim Morton through his website: http://www.bajaboundmoto.com/ He can help with all aspects, from pre-running to supplying a bike and race support. He has the resume and his experience would be invaluable to a Baja novice.

Jim

flyingbeard 01-23-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WONB2K
For your first Baja race I'd strongly suggest contacting Tim Morton through his website: http://www.bajaboundmoto.com/ He can help with all aspects, from pre-running to supplying a bike and race support. He has the resume and his experience would be invaluable to a Baja novice.

Jim

Thanks Jim

PackMule 01-23-2007 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WONB2K
For your first Baja race I'd strongly suggest contacting Tim Morton through his website: http://www.bajaboundmoto.com/ He can help with all aspects, from pre-running to supplying a bike and race support. He has the resume and his experience would be invaluable to a Baja novice.

Jim

I was going to post this, but since Jim beat me to it, I'll 2nd it. :nod

Pantah 01-23-2007 06:48 PM

A Hundred Grand
 
4 solid years of campaigning various motorcycles in their native competition at the rate of about $20k/yr if you're on the budget plan. Then another $20k to set-up and execute one Baja race if you have lots of friends.

It's about the same budget as country club golf...

HUSKYraceteam 01-23-2007 09:21 PM

Baja 500 basic. Not Honda pits nor factory ride.

Score Membership: $ 50.00 per person, all racers have to be members
Sportsman Entry: $ 500.00 est.
Pro Entry: $ 950.00 est.
Bike: You buy $6,000.00+ est. Either a 450 or 510/525/650. Expect to rebuild your top end or something close after race ends. Square rims, bent radiators, almost anything can and will happen.
Race Bike Parts: min.$1-$2K; Tires, tubes,chain, Stab,tank, stator rewind with light if night race,suspension rebuild front/rear
Bike: You lease $3500 to $7500 complete to race and return
Bike: Security deposit refundable $ cost of bike probably
Bike Spares: ? $1K to 3K depending on what you buy, wheels, sub frames, nothing.
Pre Running: $1-$2K (Trucks, people, food, motel, fuel, etc.)
Pits: $125.00 Baja Pits up to $600 for Honda pits. Checkers you have to be a checker. Mag 7, FAIR or your buddies are your other choices.
Race Fuel: $ Included with pit fee up to 3 gallons of 100unleaded race fuel per pit at Baja Pits locations. Honda pit prices include 3 gallons of 91 octane fuel and spare parts exchange.
Race Day: Chasing $ 700-$1500 depending on how many vehicles you have
Commute: $ Where are you driving/flying from round trip, renting vehciles or driving own, flat tires, vehicle breakdowns, etc? $unknnown?

That's it in a nutshell.

A friend raced the 06 Baja 1000 Ironman on an 06 Open bike and finished 4 hours after the finish line closed down. He spent $7K for the race + the bike ($5K). Two spare wheels attached to parts bike in chase truck, no spare lights (just the race set he already owned, otherwise $1K), one chase truck with 2 guys, 1 week pre running before the race, motels, fuel, insurance, food for 10 days (pre running and race weekend). Had flat tire that stopped him for 4 hours and missed his connection for night lights by over three hours after dark. No sat phones or FM radios used to save money. If he had those, chase crew could have driven to him and he would be have been racing most of night. Spent night in baja desert camping out without lights, first night. Cold brrrrrrrr.

Race can be done, but bare minimum here. Start saving now, find 5-8 buddies that want to race or find some cash sponsors now (like the rest of us are looking for). Good luck/ See you down there.

BajaKiwi 01-23-2007 09:58 PM

Cost Of 500
 
Priceless.

Very vaguely..

Pits by Honda $750.... to possibly half that with others (Mag 7, Baja Pits)
Score entry aprox $800 plus a annual $50 for score card.

Depending on how you exist for accomadation, gas, food $100/day to $250/day. Theres the whole range in Ensenada. If you're using a campground/ locals paddock/ or hotel in outlying towns it tends to be cheaper/ simpler in all respects (food/accom).

Bike. You can ride it stock as long as you have got 50/60 mile tank capability for race. Prerunning you might want a larger tank ( $200). If you're going for the basics invest in suspension ($850- best money can buy), damper (a lot but worth it), footpegs ($125), shark fin, Handle bars......and all the rest.

For 500 hopefully you won't need lights. You may want a plan B which might involve a helmet light ($250- $400, if you've already upgraded your stock bulb) just to get you last miles. Otherwise you're looking at a stator rewind and a single/ double 8" or Diablo from Baja Designs. ($125 + $200- $1200)

Vehicle insurance. For car/truck/van- $10/day.

Cost would depend a lot on amount of prerunning ie tires, odd tube, few levers, filters and oil. A rear for every 500 miles prerun, a front. A chain, set of steel sprockets.

For race you'll need fresh tires all around, oil,filters, chain, sprocket etc

If you're doing a LOT of prerunning I wouldn't suggest riding same bike for the race. It'll be pretty beat.

The 500 is a good race and logistically reasonably easy. It can be done for relatively cheaply. Not everyone is driving a Trophy Truck nor is every bike prepped to Honda race team standards.

On the day - enjoy. There won't be any amount of money that can pay for that experience!!! A.

xr400r 01-23-2007 11:26 PM

I saw someone leasing a xr650r for the race for approx. $3500. I believe that included support during the race. I am guessing you could fly there do the race and be done for $5000. I could be all wet. I don't have any experience at it but was just a guess. I am here to learn too. If you are going to spend $20k to $40 to race the baja 500 you might as well save your money and do Dakar. You are already on that side of the ocean.

bajaboundmoto 01-24-2007 10:32 AM

You can rent complete packages for the Baja 500 that includes support trucks with drivers, pre-run bikes, new Honda race bike, Honda Pits (the best), hotels, etc... for around $8000.
All you have to do is fly in, pay attention, have a clue what you're getting into, and be safe.

For 1st time Baja racers who are new to Baja (even local) renting is a great way to learn and be walked thru it.
For teams located a great distance away it's a fantastic way to get it done.


But what would I know.....


(thanks PackMule and WONB2K!)

PackMule 01-24-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajaboundmoto

But what would I know.....

:D :bow

Ian640 01-24-2007 12:29 PM

Thanks for all the replies :D

The bajaboundmoto 'turnkey' option is an interesting alternative to shipping my own fully-prepped bike (not my LC4 and not the Alp) over the pond.

It's just a long-term plan at the moment. I'm thinking 2010 or 2011.

Interesting comment about doing the Dakar rally instead. A friend and I are 'in discussions' about an attempt in the next few years. The Baja 500 is one point on the 'road to Dakar', or even a worthy alternative as the big problem (for me at least) is that an attempt at the Dakar ain't cheap. But...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alastair Hilson
On the day - enjoy. There won't be any amount of money that can pay for that experience!!! A.

And, unlike the memories, you can't take the money with you...

Cheers,

Ian.

BajaKiwi 01-24-2007 01:51 PM

And, unlike the memories, you can't take the money with you...

Cheers,

Ian.[/QUOTE]

.... but you can leave it with many of the businesses lurking here :deal .:clap


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