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IndyTim 10-23-2007 09:16 PM

MY new 640 Adventure
 
Ok, MarkN got the pictures of his new bike up before I did, but I actually got mine first, by about 6 hours. :D

But as he's taking a ride down to France, he's putting a lot more miles on than I am. :cry Hi Mark! :wave

Anyhoo... here are pics of the new bike. No mods yet, but you wouldn't be able to see the initial ones anyway :evil .

Front view:

http://IndyTim.smugmug.com/photos/212222217-M.jpg

In my front yard with scenic background (and temporary dealer plate hack):

http://IndyTim.smugmug.com/photos/212216651-M.jpg

That's me. Yes, I know the bike is better looking than I am.

http://IndyTim.smugmug.com/photos/212216258-M.jpg

..and a little test spin down at the end of my road. Note the Vizsla in the background. That dog loves to run.

http://IndyTim.smugmug.com/photos/212214096-M.jpg

SpringOly 10-24-2007 12:27 PM

Nice Ride!
 
Congrats on the new ride!

:D :clap

I love my 06!

SpringOly

Dual Sport Riding Techniques - The DVD!

IndyTim 10-24-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpringOly
Congrats on the new ride!


Thanks, I'm out of town on a business trip, driving a rental cage. Rental cars are so boring. :snore

Can't wait to get back to the bike!!

NSFW 10-24-2007 06:02 PM

Sweet:clap . You will not be dissapointed. Love mine even though is not as pristine when I got it.

If you're less than 6 foot tall, expect to drop that bike, regardless!

IndyTim 10-30-2007 10:54 AM

Planned mods
 
Ok, been doing a bunch of work figuring out how to tune this bike to my needs, while simultaneously fending off an irrational urge to trade it for a 950SE.

I'll post pics as I get these mods completed, but here is the list and, more importantly, why the bike needs them.

Necessary Modifications
-----------------------

1) ADV sticker on fairing. This one is self-evident.

1.5) Forgot this.. 15T front countershaft sprocket. Why? Because I want higher revs at slower speeds to reduce stall possibility and save the clutch. We have slow rocky places here, and the bike is just too fast for them. I'm slipping the clutch a lot. I'll deal with the higher revs on the highway. Hopefully it won't be too bad.

2) New tires: Dunlop D908 Rally Raids front and rear. Why? The Metzeler Enduro 3 stock tires are fine for the street, but are crap off road in SW Missouri. We've got a lot of hard pack, with a layer of broken rock (sharp gravel) on top. There are hills that I can barely get up for lack of traction, and the bike is scary loose in typical dirt corners.

3) New lighting: Gonna try for the Euro headlights, plus an HID lightbar from Trailtech. Why? The lighting is the worst feature of this bike. It sucks, badly. Low is too clipped. High is an uneven pattern with a bright spot in the middle, like a cheap adjustable flashlight from Walmart. Illumination into corners is non existent.

3.1) LED Taillight (still researching). Forgot this on the first pass. Why? This one should be self-evident, but if it's not: speed up activation of the brake light, and make it more intense (i.e. visible). May save my bacon, and with all those ijuts on cell phones out there, we need every advantage we can get.

4) New exhaust: still researching. Why? Because.

5) Rejetting. Goes with new exhaust. Even out the running, get a bit more power and responsiveness.

6) New springs: for a 250lb avg rider weight. Why? 'cause the bike is setup for a 165lb rider. I'm planning for an avg weight of 250, which is a compromise between me by myself, both my wife and me, and all of us with luggage on short trips.

7) Canisterectomy: to smooth out the running, lose a tiny bit of weight (it all helps), and most importantly, to free up some space for the Euro toolbox.

8) Euro toolbox: Nice job, KTM, on screwing up a perfectly good motorcycle. Like I really need a charcoal canister more than a toolbox on an Adventure bike. :baldy

9) Steering damper: still researching this. Why? Because I live in fear of repeating the 60-mph endo I had on a Yamaha 250 Enduro back when I was 15. Front end started to shake, and I lost it. It was ugly, and it was my friend's Dad's friend's bike. :eek1 :eek1 Already had one bout of this on the 640, I brought it under control. Don't want it again.

10) Replace the skid plate with the poly resin version. Why? Because the aluminum one is too noisy. It sounds like it's being hit with a hammer at around 3000-3500 rpm. And, it collects gravel and then THAT sounds like it's in an aluminum washing machine. I give up a little protection in going to the resin, but I think it's worth the risk.

11) Install a mudflap at the bottom of the front fender. Why? Because my radiator is a mess from the mud I hit. Since I hate cleaning stuff, I'd rather it not get that dirty in the first place.

12) Replace center stand with side stand. Why? Because I'm too lazy to drag it up on the center stand every time I have to get off to open a gate. And it's lighter. Besides, dragging the bike up on the stand several times a day is tearing up my right wrist (RMS).

13) Renazco seat. Why? The bike is fine for 1-up, but with 2-up, we both end up sliding forward and it gets old fast. Like to do some grippy suede, make it a little more comfortable. For her.

Farkling
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14) Wolfman Discovery Lite tank bag
15) Touratech headlight protector
16) Touratech rear rack
17) Tail bag -- still researching this. Maybe the Wolfman mini-beta. And I like the Kaoko day bag.
18) Garmin Zumo and GPS mount. Still researching the mount.

Ideas Discarded
-----------------
- I canceled my KTM aluminum panniers order. Why? Primarily because I don't think this is the right bike to take on extended 2-up journeys. We'll wait for a GS or 990Adv for that. So, we'll get by with tail/tank bags, on short trips.

Contemplating
-------------
- I'm looking into modifying the turn signals to put a small bright LED on the end of the stalk, which would be activated by the signal switch and would illuminate corners better. I'll get back to you on this.

MarkN 10-30-2007 12:42 PM

Tim,

You have a great taste in bikes:thumb I've loved buying bits for mine and reading through your wish list not only do we share a lot in common but you've also given me a few ideas.

It's a shame we have an Ocean between us as I'd suggest meeting up and having a trip together.:freaky

Enjoy it my friend

Mark

Laromonster 10-30-2007 01:09 PM

Great bike.
First mod i did on mine was replacing the handguards, the stockers are for weather protection only.
i chose Acerbis multiplo with the biggest "touring" plastic shield.
i have dumped the bike twice without lever damage, the guards are scratched , but otherwise intact

SpringOly 10-30-2007 01:35 PM

My experience...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyTim
Ok, been doing a bunch of work figuring out how to tune this bike to my needs, while simultaneously fending off an irrational urge to trade it for a 950SE.

I'll post pics as I get these mods completed, but here is the list and, more importantly, why the bike needs them.

Necessary Modifications
-----------------------

1) ADV sticker on fairing. This one is self-evident.

1.5) Forgot this.. 15T front countershaft sprocket. Why? Because I want higher revs at slower speeds to reduce stall possibility and save the clutch. We have slow rocky places here, and the bike is just too fast for them. I'm slipping the clutch a lot. I'll deal with the higher revs on the highway. Hopefully it won't be too bad.

I did this - still on the bike 6000 miles later. With a 15 I did not have to change the chain length, simply adjusted the slack. You'll lose a couple of mph on the top end - no biggie.


2) New tires: Dunlop D908 Rally Raids front and rear. Why? The Metzeler Enduro 3 stock tires are fine for the street, but are crap off road in SW Missouri. We've got a lot of hard pack, with a layer of broken rock (sharp gravel) on top. There are hills that I can barely get up for lack of traction, and the bike is scary loose in typical dirt corners.

Stock tires are slick in dirt and especially gravel. I'm currently running (and happy with) a D908 rear and a TKC-80 front. I've got 1000+ miles on the Dunlop and it looks the same as the day I put it on. It does like to follow ruts a bit, especially when underinflated. Not a problem - simply a factor.

3) New lighting: Gonna try for the Euro headlights, plus an HID lightbar from Trailtech. Why? The lighting is the worst feature of this bike. It sucks, badly. Low is too clipped. High is an uneven pattern with a bright spot in the middle, like a cheap adjustable flashlight from Walmart. Illumination into corners is non existent.

Agree that the lighting is not good. My solution? Don't ride at night.

3.1) LED Taillight (still researching). Forgot this on the first pass. Why? This one should be self-evident, but if it's not: speed up activation of the brake light, and make it more intense (i.e. visible). May save my bacon, and with all those ijuts on cell phones out there, we need every advantage we can get.

I'm curious to see what you end up with - keep us updated.

4) New exhaust: still researching. Why? Because.

See your exhaust post for my solution to this same issue.

5) Rejetting. Goes with new exhaust. Even out the running, get a bit more power and responsiveness.

Yep!

6) New springs: for a 250lb avg rider weight. Why? 'cause the bike is setup for a 165lb rider. I'm planning for an avg weight of 250, which is a compromise between me by myself, both my wife and me, and all of us with luggage on short trips.

I sent my suspension in to Precision Concepts and it makes a HUGE difference - best upgrade I've done. I've since ridden a 950SE that had the suspension redone by SuperPlush - it's even better (and less expensive). Getting the correct springs is good, revalving to your specs makes it fantastic!

7) Canisterectomy: to smooth out the running, lose a tiny bit of weight (it all helps), and most importantly, to free up some space for the Euro toolbox.

This is a no brainer, but I wish the Euro toolbox was bigger. Not much fits in that little space!

8) Euro toolbox: Nice job, KTM, on screwing up a perfectly good motorcycle. Like I really need a charcoal canister more than a toolbox on an Adventure bike. :baldy

You'll need more tools than you can fit in in that box anyway.

9) Steering damper: still researching this. Why? Because I live in fear of repeating the 60-mph endo I had on a Yamaha 250 Enduro back when I was 15. Front end started to shake, and I lost it. It was ugly, and it was my friend's Dad's friend's bike. :eek1 :eek1 Already had one bout of this on the 640, I brought it under control. Don't want it again.

I went for a Scotts with a Loaded underbar mount.


http://www.stenhouseracing.com/shop/...&products_id=6

10) Replace the skid plate with the poly resin version. Why? Because the aluminum one is too noisy. It sounds like it's being hit with a hammer at around 3000-3500 rpm. And, it collects gravel and then THAT sounds like it's in an aluminum washing machine. I give up a little protection in going to the resin, but I think it's worth the risk.

Foam works.

11) Install a mudflap at the bottom of the front fender. Why? Because my radiator is a mess from the mud I hit. Since I hate cleaning stuff, I'd rather it not get that dirty in the first place.

12) Replace center stand with side stand. Why? Because I'm too lazy to drag it up on the center stand every time I have to get off to open a gate. And it's lighter. Besides, dragging the bike up on the stand several times a day is tearing up my right wrist (RMS).

SW Motech sells a sidestand that works with the centerstand so you can have both. Use the kick starter with your left hand to boost it up.

13) Renazco seat. Why? The bike is fine for 1-up, but with 2-up, we both end up sliding forward and it gets old fast. Like to do some grippy suede, make it a little more comfortable. For her.

Me? Grippy suede Renazco!

Farkling
--------
14) Wolfman Discovery Lite tank bag
15) Touratech headlight protector
16) Touratech rear rack
17) Tail bag -- still researching this. Maybe the Wolfman mini-beta. And I like the Kaoko day bag.
18) Garmin Zumo and GPS mount. Still researching the mount.

Ideas Discarded
-----------------
- I canceled my KTM aluminum panniers order. Why? Primarily because I don't think this is the right bike to take on extended 2-up journeys. We'll wait for a GS or 990Adv for that. So, we'll get by with tail/tank bags, on short trips.

Contemplating
-------------
- I'm looking into modifying the turn signals to put a small bright LED on the end of the stalk, which would be activated by the signal switch and would illuminate corners better. I'll get back to you on this.


SpringOly

Dual Sport Riding Techniques - The DVD!


IndyTim 10-30-2007 02:01 PM

What's a little water?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkN
Tim,

You have a great taste in bikes:thumb I've loved buying bits for mine and reading through your wish list not only do we share a lot in common but you've also given me a few ideas.

It's a shame we have an Ocean between us as I'd suggest meeting up and having a trip together.:freaky

Enjoy it my friend

Mark

Hey Mark -- I'd really like to do an England trip, even on a rental bike. So that little lake may not be that big a deal. But you'd have to put up with my wife 'cause there ain't no way she'd let me go to the UK without her tagging along. She presented a paper at Oxford a few months ago and can't wait to go back!

But you're prolly gonna have to come to the States to see my bike though. :clap

IndyTim 10-30-2007 02:09 PM

what Springoly said...
 
..Couldn't quote your post :lol3

re: the riding at night thing. I agree with you in principle. But I also use the bike to run my wife down to the barn to check on her horse a coupla times a day. Just a bit more time for us to be together (I travel a lot). And, it's kind of peaceful to hang out and watch the horses eat. Something about a barn at night...

So when I'm home we trek the 2 miles or so each evening, and there are about a gazillion deer around here. I don't go faster than 30mph, 'cause I just KNOW they're in ambush, waiting to kill us (wife has hit two deer in the past 10 days with her car). And under these circumstances, I would really like to have better illumination out to the sides.

re: the foam -- I considered this but thought it would "insulate" the underside of the engine. Any issues with heat?

And thanks for the exhaust/suspension info. I'm going to check into having the revalving done.

SpringOly 10-31-2007 09:34 AM

Uh Huh
 
I hear what you're saying... I'm considering a lighting upgrade as well. We have deer, elk and slow elk (cows) aplenty out here and more light would not hurt if you got "caught out".

A friend of mine was on his bicycle and got run over by a elk - broadsided. Broke his hip, leg and internal organs scratched & bruised. It took him nearly a year to heal up! He still doesn't remember what happened - the impact knocked him unconscious and in the ditch. :eek1 Lucky for him, his wife found him.

The foam idea is taken from the pages of the KTM hard parts catalog. If they sell it, it must work on some level. :evil


SpringOly

Dual Sport Riding - The DVD!

Stobie 10-31-2007 10:15 AM

I had an '02 640 Adv, and thought I would give a couple of suggestions. Not disagreeing with anybody else, really.

1) Forget the euro toolbox. They don't hold much, and they and the frame mounting tabs for them are fragile. They have been known to break off and jam between the rear wheel and fender, locking up the wheel. Get a Wolfman Enduro Tool Kit.

2) I lined my skidplate with adhesive-backed cork. Worked really well, and made people ask questions.

3) SW-Motech sidestand :nod

4) Renazco :nod :nod

5) Re-spring/re-valve :nod :nod :nod

6) Lose the low front fender in favor of a high one--mud cloggage will lock the wheel and put you down. I have no direct experience with this, but I've seen it, and it's ugly.

7) Talk me into selling you my 950SE.:lol3

IndyTim 10-31-2007 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stobie
1) Forget the euro toolbox. ...Get a Wolfman Enduro Tool Kit.

Check, ordered it last night.

2) I lined my skidplate with adhesive-backed cork. Worked really well, and made people ask questions.

Interesting idea. I think I'll look for some glue-on fur. Nah, gonna try the foam idea.

3) SW-Motech sidestand :nod

4) Renazco :nod :nod

Yep, yep, yep.

5) Re-spring/re-valve :nod :nod :nod

What Stobie said.

6) Lose the low front fender in favor of a high one--mud cloggage will lock the wheel and put you down. I have no direct experience with this, but I've seen it, and it's ugly.

Still thinkin about this one.

7) Talk me into selling you my 950SE.:lol3

Aww man, I JUST got over that. Have some mercy!

zugy 11-01-2007 12:37 AM

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I got the SXC Sparky muffler on mine. It worked great. 1.1 air idle jet (hard to get to), 168 main fuel, drilled out two little holes in carb slide to about 1/8 inch (this modification from "Flanny" was the best tip! Instant throttle response!

I like the idea of a mud flap. Let me know what you figure out.

Presision Concepts did a great job on my 640 adv.

Two up is alright for shorter trips but the 950 better.

Got lots of rocks?? Get the touratech lens protectors that looks like a set of glasses, so sexy! :evil

You are way cool!

disconnected 11-01-2007 02:34 AM

640's need dirt bagz.... well if you wanna be cool like me.... :drums








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