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meat popsicle 02-13-2004 01:17 PM

Rallye tank alternative?
 
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I have searched all over this site for additional tanks for the KTM 640 Adventure and come up with next to nothing. The 660 Rallye tanks would be great but KTM won't let Acerbis sell them to anyone else and KTM won't sell them to mortals (the dogs).

Someone also mentioned a tank that sits on the rear rack but I dont like the sound of all that weight up there. Then I came across this:

http://www.outback-guide.de/bikes/marathon/marathon.htm

What the heck is that/are those tanks on the back of that bike???

Anyone read german? The online translators shred that page...

Best I can tell is the tank/s may be from here:

http://www.ktm-shop.de/

Flanny 02-13-2004 01:32 PM

Those are 1997 KTM 66 Rallye tanks, and will be even harder to find.

Slappy 02-13-2004 01:56 PM

Here is another source. I don' know what their status is though. Good Luck. The only caution I would offer you is that they require either relocation of the exhaust or a remote resevoir on the shock or both. The rest of the fitment is simple by comparison.

http://www.dirtbike.at/ktm/lc4/lc4tanks.html

meat popsicle 02-15-2004 10:15 AM

Interesting...
 
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it looks like someone may be fabricating the 97 rallye tanks (Thanks for the reply Flanny) or there is some NOS still around. There is a lot of interest in this I gather from what I have seen in the forums. Well, at $475 bucks (x2) they might be a bit much for most (sigh).

Slappy, have you used these or done something similar?

Mack 02-15-2004 01:26 PM

I may be misinformed on the subject, but it was my understanding that that syle of tank was abandoned rather rapidly by KTM, do to the fact it carried the weight of the fuel too high up. This caused an already porky bike to be a total pig in the handling dept. Hopefully I'm wrong, and this isn't the case, and these will be a workable solution for those wanting more fuel capacity.

Happe 02-16-2004 05:52 AM

I just got this information:


http://212.227.244.36/cgi-bin/ads/ad...uery=retrieval

this guy Tim from Germany tries to sell his "KTM Hecktanks" for 200.-Euro
including Petcocks

That is damn cheap.

go for it

Happe 02-16-2004 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack
I may be misinformed on the subject, but it was my understanding that that syle of tank was abandoned rather rapidly by KTM, do to the fact it carried the weight of the fuel too high up. This caused an already porky bike to be a total pig in the handling dept. Hopefully I'm wrong, and this isn't the case, and these will be a workable solution for those wanting more fuel capacity.


Hey Mack,

Theses Tanks are the only ones that will fit on the Adventure build between 98 and 2000 without major changes. After 2000 the rear frame is changed but it is possible to change everything for these type of tank.
The newer tanks from the 98-2000 Rally doesn't fit with the normal Adventure exhaust system.
Some of my friends are using these old style tanks without any problems in handling even in the big Dunes of Africa.
A driver like Meoni, Sainct or Despres will feel the difference between these and the newer Tanks, but we????

Cat0020 02-16-2004 08:12 AM

Speaking from personal experience.. I would avoid riding the 660 Rallye with the rear tanks filled any chance I get, especially riding around where I am; even a full front tank.. that 7 gallon is great to weight down the front wheel, but in tight trails, or attempts to pick up the bike from its side, less weight is priority for me.
I don't even have handlebar end weights for my KTMs.

meat popsicle 02-16-2004 10:31 AM

Range on Demand
 
Speaking from a complete lack of experience with these bikes I thank all of you for your experience and opinions. Cat, I wonder if you have ever used your 660s rallye tanks for bridging the gaps on longer segments between fueling points?

I don't know the 660s fuel efficiency but I think the 640s range would jump into the 4-500 mile department. And although you make a great point to not fill them if you don't need to, especially in technical stuff, having them sitting back there would be a big comfort to me in the lonely places of the world (someday...).

RumRunner 02-16-2004 10:48 AM

The 660 tank...

http://www.whitepond.org/d/bmwhp/KTM660E.jpg

DW

Cat0020 02-17-2004 08:31 AM

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Sure, if you are cruising at 60+ or 80+mph in open desert and you can see miles ahead of you, the added weight of the combined 13 plus gallons of fuel actually makes the bike feel more stable.. where the location of the weight should not matter all that much.
But when you are traveling below 30 or 20 mph through trails with rough terrain, 2 to 5 ft. raises and drops constantly, babyhead rocks or boulders that weight more than a few tons.. that's a different story. even the weight of your own head can make a big difference in the balance of the bike.
I'm scrunny little guy, I try to carry as minimum weight as possible when I ride off-pavement.

Slappy 02-17-2004 09:56 AM

Sorry for the long delay in my reply. I have a right side tank from a '99 Rallye that I will install to my '03 Adventure, pursuant to the work done on this site

http://www.ktm-adventure.ch/22umbaut...he1/index.html

I guess there is no reason to be selfish about my source for the side tanks. Let this all go out to everyone then and always speak fondly of Slappy. Both right and left side tanks and other associated parts can be found right here in the US. There is only one of the parts listed that is not available and it is not one of great consequence. See this site

http://www.ktminfo.com/ktm.asp

Click on parts catalog (upper left). Go to 1999. Go to 1999 Rallye 660 Div (088172). Go to fuel tank; seat; additional fuel tanks rallye 99. Choose your parts. That is how I got mine just a couple of months ago. Sorry about the length of that mess but it is surely worth it. Enjoy.

Cat0020 02-17-2004 10:50 AM

Excellent source Slappy..

I might have get a pair just for spare... or to try and fit them onto my 640 Adventure just for fun.

:1drink

meat popsicle 02-17-2004 11:43 AM

All Hail Slappy!!!
 
Thanks Slappy, very generous of you! :thumb

I called the source and he says they don't keep them in stock but can order them (2 days). If you want to check on availability just put that in the comments section of the order form and they will contact you with availability only. I only found the L/S tank on their online parts catalog but he said write that you want the R/S tank in the comments section and he will add that to the order/info request.

I noticed that there are alot of other parts that go with the tanks (caps etc) and probably need some more stuff needed that is in Swiss on Slappy's installation link... are the pics enough Slappy? Or could someone translate?

Cat0020 02-17-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by meat popsicle
I only found the L/S tank on their online parts catalog but he said write that you want the R/S tank in the comments section and he will add that to the order/info request.

The right side tank is at the upper portion of that page, without a coordinating number for the right side.


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