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SCflyer 10-17-2008 05:46 PM

Can a bmw key be copied?
 
If I go with another GSA, I'd like to just switch over the hardcases instead of the $$ of new...except they're keyed to the ignition key. Can the key be copied or would I have to get another kit to redo the bags with another key?

Thanks for any info.

GB 10-17-2008 05:48 PM

You can order a key from your dealer, or get the panniers rekeyed to the new bike. getting the locks rekeyed is the best option.

Canned Soup 10-17-2008 07:16 PM

1150 or 1200?
 
1150 can be copied, I have had it copied several times at the local locksmiths, $2 each.

dave

SCflyer 10-18-2008 02:01 AM

Oops. Sorry, it's a 1200 and thanks for the info.!

Possu 10-18-2008 03:11 AM

keys for all bikes with BMW immobilisers (R1200, K1200, F650/800) are only available from dealers. There is a maximum of 10 keys available for each bike during its lifetime. If you loose all 10 keys, you need a new ECU.

To put this in perspective, Honda's HISS equipped BIKES may only have 3 keys available before requiring a replacement ECU? :eek1

Oilheads & G-series keys can be recut cheaply by a locksmith.

SCflyer 10-18-2008 01:54 PM

Checked with the dealer today. If I switch bikes they can put new locks on all the bags keyed to my new bike. Parts guy keeps them in stock as they do it alot I guess.

Possu 10-18-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCflyer
Checked with the dealer today. If I switch bikes they can put new locks on all the bags keyed to my new bike. Parts guy keeps them in stock as they do it alot I guess.

New locks not needed. Use the old key to remove the lock from the case & then rebuild it with new internals around the new bike key & re-fit lock to case, saw a Tech manage it today in 10 minutes on an R12RT topbox.

EggChaser 10-19-2008 01:28 AM

This might help with understanding the locks and wafers

http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/keying_bmw_locks

bonox 10-19-2008 01:17 PM

you don't need a chipped key, and you can have hundreds of them if you like. (And the guy who buys your old bike doesn't need to worry about that extra key).

Best thing is they are much cheaper.

Or, you could rekey the locks as above. I find independant keys useful, as I can give a pannier key to someone to go get beer, but they can't move the bike away as a practical joke.

SCflyer 10-23-2008 06:31 PM

Thanks for that, but I've got the Adv. aluminum cases and the barrels seem shorter than these. I'll look closer to find a release but has anyone done the locks on the Adv. panniers? There's got to be someway since the parts guy said he can change the locks and key them to my new key . Just gotta figure out what his magic trick is! :cromag I don't think they'll charge me so may just let them do it but figured it's something else I could do on my own.
Quote:

Originally Posted by EggChaser
This might help with understanding the locks and wafers

http://www.pbase.com/rodneff/keying_bmw_locks


bonox 10-23-2008 06:59 PM

Need the original key to pull the barrels out of the existing locks.

Then you sit down with the new key and a box of wafers and exchange them so that they all sit flush - then re-insert the barrel into the lock. The barrel design is the same as in the link above - only the housing is different.

Or just buy a new case barrel kit and accept that they won't be the same as the ignition.

Or do a chip-less copy of the current (ignition) key and use that for your cases.

sailwing2003 11-23-2008 02:26 PM

The dealer suggested that they could re-key the 6 locks on the new 08 Adventure bags to match the 06 Adventure that I am selling with the new bags.

"Just buy 6 lock sets @ $35 per lock, plus $100 labor, plus tax, just like $330."

Thanks to ADVrider and the wisdom here, I just re-keyed the locks by rearranging the "wafers" or tumbler to match the correct key on all six locks in 30 minutes.

Thanks everyone for sharing the info.


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