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TheNedster 02-14-2009 02:50 PM

Teiz Motorsports One Piece Riding Suits - Official Thread
 
As reported on WebBikeWorld here: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...age-2.htm#teiz

Manufacturer's site here: http://teizms.com/

Lots of features to be sure, but I'm also a firm believer in that old nugget "You gets whats you pay for". Looking forward to the WBW review of this suit. What say ye?:ear

omnivore 02-14-2009 09:34 PM

Too bad it isn't 2 pc

keiji 02-14-2009 10:09 PM

If it's got the materials it says it has and the stitching it says it has, I'd buy one.

I don't remember the old cordura being made in 600/1680 denir form though.
Too bad ever since DuPont sold the Cordura name to Invista, they've been plastering it on everything now.

I can see them being able to make that price if t is more or less direct from the factory. The old FS highland suit was 329.

Having that many features can hide the fact that smaller pieces of fabric are used. Using the older style armor will help on price too.

Seems too good to be true, but I will wait with anticipation too.

MillCreek 02-15-2009 08:36 AM

The WBW posting references the suit in high-viz colors. At this time, the website showing the Cordura suit in black and the mesh suit in red. I would be curious to see how this stacks up to my Olympia Phantom in neon.

JPerkins 02-15-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcompton

:lol3 Was that actually supposed to be translated?

I think you nailed it. Engrish.

keiji 02-15-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPerkins
I think you nailed it. Engrish.

Hell, if that 'd' saves me $200+ on a suit, I don't care what it says.

anonny 02-15-2009 09:04 PM

I'm sure 15 minutes with an exacto or stitch ripper will take care of that problem :D

Kit_McConnico 02-15-2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keiji
Hell, if that 'd' saves me $200+ on a suit, I don't care what it says.

Yeah, but if they can even get that right what else is going to be fucked up on this thing.

DakarBlues 02-15-2009 11:56 PM

Urdu, language of South-East Asia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcompton
http://teizms.com/media/catalog/prod.../i/file_13.jpg

:lol3 Was that actually supposed to be translated?


Urdu Urdu Class Learning Urdu
Quick=teiz,

Sir Not Appearing 02-16-2009 06:41 AM

I really like that mesh suit on their website. I'll be eagerly awaiting the review from Webbikeworld.

krehmkej 02-16-2009 09:09 AM

New from the Land of Almost Right....

ctbandit 02-16-2009 09:34 AM

honestly this suit looks pretty decent. I've never even heard of tiez but I'd love to see this in person. If it's easy on/off this seems like a great commuter get up. Even has knee pucks?? :ear

I also believe in you get what you pay for though. Which is why I'd be skeptical until I saw and tried on one to see what's really going on.

rhys 02-16-2009 09:57 AM

Has anybody made contact with them and asked about sizing???

I'm a short (like really really short) fat guy. Motoport is my choice of summer suit, but that's a thousand bucks.....

I'll chance a 'Translate to FAST' $300 suit if they can fit a 5' 2" fat boy.

(Kevlar lined jeans and a Cortech mesh jacket may not be enough for my antics on the road.....)

OaklandLion 02-16-2009 10:26 AM

I'll buy the mesh -
 
even though I don't like red.

For $249, even if it's okay, I'll be happy.

It does seem to have too many features. A little feature happy.

I need a mesh outfit. The Dainese Fluxus 2-pc is a fortune, plus it's made for skinny Italian dudes. Barely fits over my gut, and I'm not what you'd call fat. Also, I want to buy the Rev It Infinity, but that's $1,300. In California, with tax, that's $1,400 OTD.

OaklandLion 02-16-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhys
Has anybody made contact with them and asked about sizing???

I'm a short (like really really short) fat guy. Motoport is my choice of summer suit, but that's a thousand bucks.....

I'll chance a 'Translate to FAST' $300 suit if they can fit a 5' 2" fat boy.

(Kevlar lined jeans and a Cortech mesh jacket may not be enough for my antics on the road.....)


Rhys - there's a guy on www.bayarearidersforum.com making custom 1pc leathers for $425. He'll fit your size. I think his website is www.tilt.com

Good luck.

ruh roh 02-16-2009 10:36 AM

I bet its supposed to say " translated : too fast"

flux_capacitor 02-16-2009 10:40 AM

I just signed up for their newsletter and emailed the re: sizing. Will let y'all know what they say. Also they are backordered so I asked them when they might get more in stock and where I might see the suit in person.

Nice find. :thumb

flux_capacitor 02-16-2009 12:05 PM

Wow guys, I already received the return email from Ghazi at Teiz. I am really amazed at how quickly he responded and actually answered my questions as well!

Here is his email response:

"Hi,

Thank you for your interest in our products. I have been monitoring the forums and I am assuming I am speaking to flux_capacitor :) I want to respond to the comments in the forum but registration is closed for new members.

Firstly, please let others on the forum know that "translate to fast" is not a misprint. The point of our tagline is that if you wear the right gear and feel safe, you will automatically go faster and feel more confident.

Secondly, we have tried to ensure that everything is of the highest quality and comparable to many of the higher-priced competitive products out there. There is an impression that if the suit costs less it must not be that good, but I think riders will stand corrected once they have experienced the suit.

We do not advertise the suit as being 100% waterproof. However, Cordura is water resistant and there is in internal waterproof liner called Drench Quench which should provide further protection. The front zipper comes with a Velcro cover to prevent water seeping in from the front. All the vent zippers and most pockets are waterproof.

There is a sizing chart and some comparisons on the website:
http://teizms.com/comparisons-charts

The fit also depends on personal preferences. For example I am 5.8 and wear a small which is very snug on my body. But then I like the fitting to be very snug and I wear short underneath, take out the liner and avoid jeans. Normally a guy my size would go with medium. Using the sizing chart and comparing with your regular jacket size you can probably evaluate what would be comfortable size for you. If you are still confused, shoot me an email with your detailed size info.

We are working with dealers in Atlanta as well and hopefully it will be on display in Atlanta showrooms soon. We intend to launch direct sales to customers through our website in the next 2-3 months. If you email me right now about what you interested in, I can order a suit specifically for you as well. It will require a small deposit. If you think you will need a hi-viz color, you need to order ahead because they are custom ordered due to low demand. I will be posting new hi-res pictures and color swatches online soon.

Also, there are several colors available Regular Colors: Black, Red, Blue, Silver/Pewter, Dark Grey
Hi-Viz: Yellow, Orange, Light Green

Please feel free to email me any further questions.
Thanks
Ghazi

Ghazi Farooq
ghazi@teizms.com
(408) 396-0881

http://f1106.mail.yahoo.com/ya/downl...Inbox&inline=1
www.teizms.com
info@teizms.com"






So there you have it. I offered to post some pics for him if he'd email them to me so if he does I will post up. I'd like to get into one of these suits pretty soon and if I do then I'll let y'all know what I think. :thumb

TonyKZ1 02-16-2009 01:26 PM

This suit looks and sounds good, but I sure hope they'll make some bigger sizes. I can probably/possibly squeeze into their 3XL/46 but I currently wearing a XL Firstgear Thermo-suit and a 2XL Fieldsheer Highland II suit both are around a 48.
Tony

omnivore 02-16-2009 04:12 PM

I dunno why they think the hi viz would be a low volume seller. I am thinking half of all sales will be hi viz. I know I'd be buying a hi viz yellow one, if they could make it 2 pc like the Olympia stuff.

MillCreek 02-16-2009 07:00 PM

I would be interested to see the high viz orange.

rockinrog 02-16-2009 07:29 PM

Vents
 
I wonder if the vents open/close.

Gaereth 02-16-2009 08:26 PM

Yeah...the sizes don't quite run high enough. But I am quite used to getting something to fit my shoulders and then being able to put a full rucksack into the stomach area. I don't need bags with some of this damn gear, I can just stuff the front of my jacket.

Not to mention the crotch at the knees syndrome. <sigh> whine whine...bitch bitch.... :rofl

flux_capacitor 02-17-2009 08:04 AM

Guys, here are some pics that Ghazi sent me. They are also up on the website now. I asked him to try getting some hi viz pics for me to post. Personally, I never thought anyone would get me into a 'onesie' but this suit looks promising. In the last pic you can see he has some color samples...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz6.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...TEIZ/teiz8.jpg


There are a lot of things I like about this suit. It seems well thought out. It also looks very adjustable to suit a wide range of sizes (unless you're needing big guy sizes I guess). I have a really hard time finding gear with long skinny arms and legs, and a torso that is long but not fat. I like the amount of reflective strips used, and the styling ain't bad either! I am glad to see in the last pic the neck looks to use velcro and looks like it will accomodate larger necks or smaller ones like mine.

Anyway, I am not affiliated with this company, just helping someone out who looks to be making a nice product with an attractive pricepoint for a change. I mean, I like Rev'It but $1400!!! C'mon! :norton

markhas 02-17-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MillCreel
I would be interested to see the high viz orange.

Orange cannot be HI-VIZ it can be florescent but it will still lack the visual effects or HI-VIZ and just blend into the background with all other colors. But I sure the manufacturer will be glad to sell you any color you want.

rhys 02-17-2009 11:28 AM

I'm down for a summer suit.....
-- IF --
they can fit a 5' 2" bowling ball.

I wear a black leather "biker" jacket that I found in a size 54 Short, and Johnson's Leathers overpants with it's knee armour at my ankles......

I don't know if it was worst being a youngster at 5' 2" & 120 pounds having to buy women's leather jackets and childrens shoes, or an old fat 5' 2" unable to fit ANYTHING except Carharts overalls......

MillCreek 02-17-2009 04:06 PM

At a dealer show a year or two ago, I ran into an Olympia rep. He told me that about half of their Olympia Phantom suits were sold in the dayglo neon green color. I know that up here in the gloomy Pacific NW, I see a significant percentage of motorcyclists and bicyclists (I am a bicyclist too) who wear fluorescent colored clothing for visibility. I figure that anything reasonable I can do to stack the odds in my favor is a good thing.

lkoncor 02-17-2009 04:20 PM

yeah I would be nice if someone made a suit like this to fit larger guys. I am 6'5" and about 325lbs. Its tough to find gear that fits right, oh and I wear a size 18 boot too LOL.:rofl

flux_capacitor 02-18-2009 03:20 PM

Personally I am not a hi viz kinda guy. I like the looks of the light grey and waiting for pics of the darker grey as well. :thumb

War Hammer 02-18-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flux_capacitor
Personally I am not a hi viz kinda guy. I like the looks of the light grey and waiting for pics of the darker grey as well. :thumb

I'm not real big on the hi-viz either. I wonder if the could make me one in camo?

Pike Bishop 02-18-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markhas
Orange cannot be HI-VIZ

http://www.fullboarsafety.com.au/pro...es/700c150.jpg Looks pretty HI-VIZ to me...or is "HI-VIZ" some kind of registered trademark®©™?

Sir Not Appearing 02-18-2009 06:21 PM

I was really interested in one of these suit until I saw the size chart. I'll admit I'm a little over weight, but I'd never think that having a 36" waist and 48" chest would put me in a position where I was so "huge" I wouldn't fit in a 3XL.:huh

kdscoates 02-19-2009 08:07 PM

damn i can't get one of these they do not make one big enough!!!:rofl :rofl
3xl is for a 46:rofl :rofl

omnivore 02-19-2009 09:11 PM

Once I can see pics of the colours (so I can discern if I want the Hi Viz Yellow or light Green), as I want tit to match my neon Scorpion helmet, then I'd like to buy one of these.

flux_capacitor 02-20-2009 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omnivore
Once I can see pics of the colours (so I can discern if I want the Hi Viz Yellow or light Green), as I want tit to match my neon Scorpion helmet, then I'd like to buy one of these.

I too would like to see some neon tits to match my helmet, but some things you just can't ask for in a public forum. :lol3

Mercury264 02-20-2009 06:34 AM

The knee pucks aren't doing it for me - they seem totally out of place in a suit like this.

omnivore 02-20-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flux_capacitor
I too would like to see some neon tits to match my helmet, but some things you just can't ask for in a public forum. :lol3

HAHAHA...typing faster than I can think always gets me into trouble

flux_capacitor 02-21-2009 04:19 AM

Thought you guys would like to know that Ghazi has made a forum on the website, and it includes an entire section on sizing. I popped over to the site this morning to see if any news or new pics were up and noticed it. :thumb

levain 02-21-2009 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury264
The knee pucks aren't doing it for me - they seem totally out of place in a suit like this.

Exactly. At $289, that's an example of where the priority lies in designing a suit like this. Bling before safety. I'll duck as the cannonballs are sent over the bow

flux_capacitor 02-21-2009 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Williams
Exactly. At $289, that's an example of where the priority lies in designing a suit like this. Bling before safety. I'll duck as the cannonballs are sent over the bow

How do you figure? It has knee pucks, knee pads, shin pads, shoulder pads, elbow pads, double stitching, 8 different reflective panels, and a 600 denier cordura shell with 1680 denier in the high impact zones. Yup, sounds like a lot of bling all right. :D

Hell, I owned a Rev'It Cayenne at over $450 and had to purchase a back protector separately. :norton

Reverse 02-21-2009 12:08 PM

Looks like they are in the Fieldsheer school of sizing: I am tall and not fat, and I needed a 5XL jacket from Fieldsheer :-)

Mercury264 02-21-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Williams
Exactly. At $289, that's an example of where the priority lies in designing a suit like this. Bling before safety. I'll duck as the cannonballs are sent over the bow

I'm not so much bothered by that but they just look stupid on a suit like this - I don't recall ever seeing knee pucks on a textile suit (or pants come to think of it).

omnivore 02-21-2009 06:19 PM

I like the knee slider inclusions..I tend to ride like a fool on empty twisty roads,LOL

-L- 02-23-2009 01:34 AM

How much of this Teiz suit is actually mesh? The close up shows more solid cordura than mesh and the website doesn't show... a "mesh suit" in my mind should be mostly mesh! :)

flux_capacitor 02-23-2009 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -L-
How much of this Teiz suit is actually mesh? The close up shows more solid cordura than mesh and the website doesn't show... a "mesh suit" in my mind should be mostly mesh! :)

There are 2 suits, a mesh one and a vented one. I think the mesh suit is mostly mesh. I'd join up on their forum or email Ghazi for specifics. :thumb

Sir Not Appearing 02-23-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -L-
How much of this Teiz suit is actually mesh? The close up shows more solid cordura than mesh and the website doesn't show... a "mesh suit" in my mind should be mostly mesh! :)

On their Home page:

http://home.comcast.net/~sir_not_app...Untitled-1.jpg

groundrules 02-23-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury264
The knee pucks aren't doing it for me - they seem totally out of place in a suit like this.

well, they are only stuck on there with velcro.

Mercury264 02-23-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groundrules
well, they are only stuck on there with velcro.

I know but even so you are then left with that ugly patch of Velcro. Knee pucks just seems so out of place in a suit like this. I honest don't recall ever seeing pucks on a textile suit or pants.

digger2 02-23-2009 04:18 PM

Pucks?
 
Go look at Aerostitch then. Pucks are in 2 sizes for the Roadcrafter.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury264
I know but even so you are then left with that ugly patch of Velcro. Knee pucks just seems so out of place in a suit like this. I honest don't recall ever seeing pucks on a textile suit or pants.


Mercury264 02-23-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digger2
Go look at Aerostitch then. Pucks are in 2 sizes for the Roadcrafter.

I'm sure you can get them but I have personally never seen a RC with pucks or the velcro to attach them.

-L- 02-23-2009 10:18 PM

OK, I wasn't being clear... the home page shows a "mesh suit", but looking at the photos its hard to see exactly how much of it is actual mesh. Most "mesh" suits have solid cordura patches for abrasion and pockets. and looking at the images, most of this mesh suit would be solid cordura...!

Also a little concerned as there is no contact details at all - where are they made? where are they coming from?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Not Appearing


flux_capacitor 02-24-2009 03:47 AM

Like I said earlier, they have created an online forum on their website. You might want to sign up and ask them directly.

The suits are made in Pakistan. I found this on their forum. :thumb

-L- 02-24-2009 04:52 AM

I did have a look at their forum and couldn't be arsed signing up - what is the appeal when the only information I really have about them is that urned up to a trade show with a load of suits. (and I only believe that because it is on the webbikeworld website too).

Even if they were available right now, I would not be sending $2 to an anonymous internet company, let alone $250, and so my interest in this company is severely restricted.

Sorry for being a skeptic, but if Teiz wants to get to play in the real world, a bit of transparancy is required. At the moment, I'd rather stick with my winter gear than order a Teiz suit...

kdscoates 02-24-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flux_capacitor
Like I said earlier, they have created an online forum on their website. You might want to sign up and ask them directly.

The suits are made in Pakistan. I found this on their forum. :thumb


that does it for me!!! no thanks!!

flux_capacitor 02-25-2009 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdscoates
that does it for me!!! no thanks!!

Half the stuff you buy is from Pakistan or China or Japan or Austria. :norton

flux_capacitor 02-25-2009 04:48 AM

Here is a reply from Ghazi for you guys.


"
Made in Pakistan:
Many products from major brands are made in Pakistan including Harley Davidson, First Gear, Frank Thomas etc. A lot of times you will find a tag that says “Designed In” instead of “Made In” which is to avoid revealing that the products are made in Pakistan. The motorcycle apparel industry is extremely strong in Pakistan due to low labor costs and amazing leather quality. However, we believe in transparency and do not want to trick the consumer hence making it clear where the suits are made. Additionally here is another piece of information that no one might reveal to you. There are a lot of people who would read “Made in Pakistan” and be turned off by a product thus brands have asked manufacturers not to put a “Made In” label on the products. When they products are imported a “Made In” tag is attached to the product indicating some other country which might sell better for e.g. China.

Amount of Mesh:
Please look at the red mesh suit on our site:
http://teizms.com/cross-continent-air.html
Mostly everything you see in Red is mesh except for the red Velcro strip covering the front zippers. See some of the close-ups and you will get a better idea. See the picture of the thigh pocket. It shows that only the strips covering the Velcro are not mesh. You will not find a suit with more airflow. All the black parts of the suit are 1680D Cordura which is enhance protection in high impact areas.

Internet Company/Contact Info:
Check out the contact us page for ICON. They only have a online form as well. We are not as big as icon. We produce a very specialized item in a limited amount. Even then, if you send me an email or sign up on our site , I provide a phone number for you to call and discuss the product and make sure to respond to your questions as soon as possible.
I would love to respond directly to all your questions however I am unable to sign up for advrider because the registration is closed. So please, post questions our discussion forum and I will respond ASAP.
www.teizms.com/discuss

Anyway, one of the reasons we are keeping a low profile at the moment is because we are out of stock and expect reviews in magazines in the next few months. Currently, a lot of the publications are not able to write reviews because of the weather. Once the reviews are out and we are stocked up again, we will start marketing more aggressively too. Trust me, you will be hearing a lot about us in the next few months. Check out the AMA site where they have listed cool/innovative gear @ Indy:
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=628

In conclusion, keep the communication flowing guys. We want your feedback and want your opinions. We want to incorporate your input in our products….

Thanks "

flux_capacitor 02-25-2009 04:49 AM

For some reason I cannot change the color of the font, sorry guys. :norton

MikeyT 02-25-2009 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhys
Has anybody made contact with them and asked about sizing???

I'm a short (like really really short) fat guy. Motoport is my choice of summer suit, but that's a thousand bucks.....

I'll chance a 'Translate to FAST' $300 suit if they can fit a 5' 2" fat boy.

(Kevlar lined jeans and a Cortech mesh jacket may not be enough for my antics on the road.....)

I'm with you. 5'7" 250lbs. I had to park my Stich 30 lbs ago. :cry :poser

Ola M 02-25-2009 05:40 AM

De-colorized:

Made in Pakistan:
Many products from major brands are made in Pakistan including Harley Davidson, First Gear, Frank Thomas etc. A lot of times you will find a tag that says “Designed In” instead of “Made In” which is to avoid revealing that the products are made in Pakistan. The motorcycle apparel industry is extremely strong in Pakistan due to low labor costs and amazing leather quality. However, we believe in transparency and do not want to trick the consumer hence making it clear where the suits are made. Additionally here is another piece of information that no one might reveal to you. There are a lot of people who would read “Made in Pakistan” and be turned off by a product thus brands have asked manufacturers not to put a “Made In” label on the products. When they products are imported a “Made In” tag is attached to the product indicating some other country which might sell better for e.g. China.

Amount of Mesh:
Please look at the red mesh suit on our site:
http://teizms.com/cross-continent-air.html
Mostly everything you see in Red is mesh except for the red Velcro strip covering the front zippers. See some of the close-ups and you will get a better idea. See the picture of the thigh pocket. It shows that only the strips covering the Velcro are not mesh. You will not find a suit with more airflow. All the black parts of the suit are 1680D Cordura which is enhance protection in high impact areas.

Internet Company/Contact Info:
Check out the contact us page for ICON. They only have a online form as well. We are not as big as icon. We produce a very specialized item in a limited amount. Even then, if you send me an email or sign up on our site , I provide a phone number for you to call and discuss the product and make sure to respond to your questions as soon as possible.
I would love to respond directly to all your questions however I am unable to sign up for advrider because the registration is closed. So please, post questions our discussion forum and I will respond ASAP.
www.teizms.com/discuss

Anyway, one of the reasons we are keeping a low profile at the moment is because we are out of stock and expect reviews in magazines in the next few months. Currently, a lot of the publications are not able to write reviews because of the weather. Once the reviews are out and we are stocked up again, we will start marketing more aggressively too. Trust me, you will be hearing a lot about us in the next few months. Check out the AMA site where they have listed cool/innovative gear @ Indy:
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=628

In conclusion, keep the communication flowing guys. We want your feedback and want your opinions. We want to incorporate your input in our products….

Thanks "

flux_capacitor 02-25-2009 05:49 AM

Thanks Ola! :thumb

teizms 02-25-2009 05:43 PM

Finally was able to register and have some good news
 
Here is the latest newsletter I just sent out:
Hello folks,
a) Do you want to get a hold of a Cross Continent suit even before it shows up in dealerships or becomes available online?
b) Are you looking for an amazing deal?
If you answered yes to both questions then here is some good news. We are now selling the left-over pre-production units and marking them down significantly because pre-production units do not come with a warranty.
These units are essentially the same as production units and are used to collect feedback for production runs. We only have a few pieces left so hurry up. The suits have been posted on our new e-bay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Teiz-Motorsports
Hurry up and grab them ASAP because we have very few units left.
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Also, we have started an online forum. Please feel free to post questions and discuss sizing information on these forums.
http://teizms.com/discuss
<o:p></o:p>
Pictures from the 2009 Dealer Expo have also been posted.
http://teizms.com/2009-dealer-expo
<o:p></o:p>
Thanks
-------------------

So folks, please feel to directly post any questions on this forum or our forum and i will be more than happy to answer them.

Take Care
Ghazi

rockinrog 02-25-2009 05:58 PM

Sizing
 
The size chart I saw on the website goes by your jacket size. What about inseam? What good is it if it fits you on top but you look like Joe Paterno down low.

teizms 02-25-2009 07:56 PM

size chart
 
working on an updated size chart.. stay tuned

-L- 02-26-2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola M
Internet Company/Contact Info:
Check out the contact us page for ICON. They only have a online form as well. We are not as big as icon. We produce a very specialized item in a limited amount. Even then, if you send me an email or sign up on our site , I provide a phone number for you to call and discuss the product and make sure to respond to your questions as soon as possible. www.teizms.com/discuss

I presume you mean rideicon? www.rideicon.com, and if so, there is a fundemental difference - they sell through dealers, so when I buy something icon, my contract is with the dealer, first and foremost. The Teizms website is set up as a shop, and with no contact details, I have no course for redress. At least selling them through eBay gives me some protection.

And FWIW, "Made in Pakistan" should not put anyone off! However, I do want to know if I'm buying product direct from a company in Pakistan (or any other country for that matter) or from a US distributor, or from an US company that is sourcing from Pakistan etc. etc. If you want to build a brand, then you need to start off on the right foot!

teizms 02-26-2009 02:16 PM

Hi,
your points are well raised.

1) we are trying to get our stuff into various dealerships. till that works out expect to see us at motorcycle shows and rallies later this year.

2) the comment about made in Pakistan was intended to clearify that just because it is made in a certain country does not mean that it should be assumed that it is of low build quality. But just for further information, we are brand that started in California, had moved operation to Illinois recently and has a manufacturing unit in Pakistan.

Thanks

Tripletreat 02-26-2009 04:20 PM

one-piece suits
 
As a long-time owner of a one-piece Aerostich suit, I really appreciate the design's use of a single zipper that runs from the neck to the ankle. Ingress/egress is a snap. It's not clear how this new suit on the market uses zippers. I also have (since last summer) an Olympia one-piece suit that's great for riding in hot weather. The zippers on the legs that run from the waist to the ankles are very much inferior to the Aerostich design. Night and day difference in terms of convenience. This could be a deal breaker for me. I'm looking to replace my old 'stich. But, the older I get, the more I value a design that allows me to dress myself without my butler's help (he rarely rides with us). :wink:

MillCreek 02-26-2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

  • Full length front zipper with Velcro cover
  • Separate entry zip for right leg

Although it is difficult to tell from the pictures, it looks like a neck to ankle zipper on the left leg and a crotch to ankle zipper on the right leg. I also have an Olympic Phantom suit. So you think this style of zipper configuration is easier to get into than the Olympia suits? I have no basis for comparison myself and would be interested to hear your opinion.

Ola M 02-28-2009 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -L-
I presume you mean rideicon?

It's not my post, it's a copy/paste from the vendor. I just re-pasted it to remove the funky formatting.

Tripletreat 03-04-2009 09:42 AM

One-piece Suits - Ingress/Egress
 
I find it very difficult to don or remove my Olympia suit. However, the aerostich one-piece is a piece of cake. You can take it off literally in a matter of seconds. With the Olympia suit, if I don't have a chair, its even money whether I'll end up lying on the ground when I try to put it on. How often to you carry a chair when you ride?
That's what I thought....

flux_capacitor 03-04-2009 03:17 PM

Ghazi, good to see you were able to get on the forum. Good luck in this endeavor. I am just waiting on a little more cash... :thumb

teizms 03-04-2009 07:55 PM

Suits available for backorder, updated size chart, new photos
 
Hello folks, <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Great news! We are now accepting backorders for a May 31<SUP>st</SUP> shipping date. Order by March 31<SUP>st</SUP> to avail this option. Furthermore, due to popular demand, we have added one more size: 4XL. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
We are accepting orders with the following options
Colors: Blue, Red, Black, Light Grey, Dark Grey
Sizes: S – 4XL<o:p></o:p>

<o:p></o:p>
The updated size chart is now available which should make size selection a breeze:
http://teizms.com/comparisons-charts<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Also, the product features page has been updated with new pictures:
http://teizms.com/product-features<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Please feel free to post your comments and questions on our discussion forum:
http://teizms.com/discuss<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Lastly, there are a few discounted pre-production suits available on E-bay:
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Teiz-Motorsports<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
We would really appreciate it if you would forward this information to your fellow riders and on the forums that you actively visit. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Thanks<o:p></o:p>

flux_capacitor 03-05-2009 05:19 AM

I appreciate the new size chart as it really narrows it down a lot more, but I don't think I will fit into one of these suits. I need 34" for my torso, and 33" for my inseam, and a 42" chest. I guess I'll need to see one in person before I place an order, to make sure the fit is good. Or maybe hold out to see how the 2 piece suit turns out. :dunno

What's Teiz's return policy? And do you take the full amount for pre-order or a deposit?

Muggins 03-05-2009 05:35 AM

So just to be sure - the "waterproof" lining is integrated with the shell material, right? In other words, it is NOT a removeable line, correct?

I know the suit isnt advertised as 100% waterproof, but I'm starting to realize that my motoport liners, although completely waterproof, are a major PITA. If you're going on a long ride, you basically have to decide to go liners in or liners out. If you decide liners out and get caught in a freak downpour, your going to get soaked but the time you pull into a gas station to strip naked and zip in the liners.

TonyKZ1 03-05-2009 07:05 AM

I signed up for the email updates plus I'll be watching this topic also. These suits look very good and it's nice to see the vendor posting here answering questions, etc.. I do wish they were made here in the U.S. though. It'll be good to have a few reviews from the people who buy these, comparing them to the Roadcrafter and other suits.

I'm glad he's not advertising these as waterproof (without the liner) and then later after wearing them through a rain/thunderstorm you find out that they are not waterproof. I'd be interested in hearing more about this liner. I assume it's a plastic/vinyl liner like a rainsuit and just velcros, snaps, or zippers in? From reading the site it looks like this suit is water resistant similar to my Highland II suit.

Another thing I'd ask the vendor is if he wouldn't post in a different font color other than the default since I look at the site in the waxy style and I can't see his white font posting until I highlight it. But that's just a minor problem for me I guess.

teizms 03-05-2009 10:45 AM

flux: currently we require a full payment for a preorder as the suit will be made specifically for the customer.

muggins/tony: the waterproof liner is attached to the suit and is not removable. First comes the cordura, then the waterproof liner and then the internal mesh. If you have a vented suit, there will further be a removable thermal liner.

johnlt 03-05-2009 12:56 PM

vendor forum!!!
 
Doesn't all this beling in the Vendor Forum??

RedMac 03-05-2009 06:03 PM

Ummm... this company resides at an apartment
 
Taken from networksolution whois


Domain Name.......... teizms.com
Creation Date........ 2008-06-14
Registration Date.... 2008-06-14
Expiry Date.......... 2009-06-14
Organisation Name.... Teiz Motorsports
Organisation Address. 3537 Alden Way # 7
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. San Jose
Organisation Address. 95117
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Teiz Motorsports
Admin Address........ 3537 Alden Way # 7
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ San Jose
Admin Address........ 95117
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... info@teizms.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.4083960881
Admin Fax............

If you google map this address, you see an apartment complex
in San Jose. Look at the street view....

Now while I understand that any company has to
startup somewhere.... I'm not sure I'm comfortable dropping
my cash on company that runs out of an apartment complex....

teizms 03-05-2009 07:22 PM

LOL!
Yes that was the address that i provided when i signed up for the domain name last year and has not be updated. We are now based in illinois.

Regardless, we dont claim to be a large enterprise. The company is small and is involved in producing very spefic products in limited quantities at reasonable prices. I think that the the size and location of the office from where we respond to our emails should be less relevant than something like how up to date our factory is.

Do let me know if i can help you folks feel comfortable in anyway.
Thanks

DakarBlues 03-05-2009 07:32 PM

WHere in Ilinois?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teizms
LOL!
Yes that was the address that i provided when i signed up for the domain name last year and has not be updated. We are now based in illinois.

Regardless, we dont claim to be a large enterprise. The company is small and is involved in producing very spefic products in limited quantities at reasonable prices. I think that the the size and location of the office from where we respond to our emails should be less relevant than something like how up to date our factory is.

Do let me know if i can help you folks feel comfortable in anyway.
Thanks

I am from Saint-Louis, MO (next door) and en route to Chicago sometime in Spring, would enjoy visiting your store/facilities, if you permit.

THx

teizms 03-05-2009 08:06 PM

Hi,
We dont have a formal showroom yet. E-mail me closer to the time you are in chicago and we can see what can be worked out.
Thanks

Fredfredburger 03-06-2009 06:02 AM

Any chance you will be putting some pictures or samples of the colors the suits are offered in on your website?

Thanks

War Hammer 03-06-2009 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF Burger
Any chance you will be putting some pictures or samples of the colors the suits are offered in on your website?

Thanks

+1 I would like to see some color swatches as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RedMac
Now while I understand that any company has to
startup somewhere.... I'm not sure I'm comfortable dropping
my cash on company that runs out of an apartment complex....

Jeez guys! Quit busting his balls. If you don't have confidence in his business or product, just don't buy it. That's the way it works in a market economy. All of you who are posting your "concerns" about the legitimacy of his business are just acting like a bunch of asshats! You pull crap like this and then you wonder why more people don't go into business provide reasonably priced gear. Well, you are your own answer.

woot_in_NS 03-06-2009 06:57 AM

interesting
 
This could be good! I own a one piece leather suit, and a few 2pc suits - but it'd be nice to have a larger 1pc suit for touring.

Any reviews yet?

teizms 03-06-2009 08:36 AM

swatches
 
hi,
I will be posting the color swatches today. Till then, pictures from the expo show the suits in various colors.

http://teizms.com/2009-dealer-expo

Greenflyfarmer 03-06-2009 06:31 PM

teizms
 
For some reason I can't get your size chart to come up on my computer. Please advise, I'd wear this suit with slacks mostly, to work. I'm 5'8", 190 pounds. Inseam is 29'.

rockinrog 03-06-2009 06:59 PM

Pdf
 
The size chart is a PDF. You need to download Adobe Reader (free)
Inseam sizes seem to be for shorter people.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenflyfarmer
For some reason I can't get your size chart to come up on my computer. Please advise, I'd wear this suit with slacks mostly, to work. I'm 5'8", 190 pounds. Inseam is 29'.


teizms 03-06-2009 10:55 PM

Hello folks,
Had a detailed phone conv with josh today and i asked him to email me the questions he asked so i could share the answers with all of you.

Ghazi,
Thank you in advance for your time.
I have several questions in regards to your suits and your www site:
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Is is possible to have color swatches and/or pictures of the different colors/color combinations made available for the two suit designs on the www site?
Color swatches will be posted soon <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Do the suits account for riding position in the measurment charts provided on the site? Or are they sized like street clothes where I will need to add 1-2 inches to my leg or arm measurment so the suit doesn't ride up my my arms and legs? If they are sized for a riding position, is it a more aggressive crouched stance, or a more upright stance?
I will be updating the chart with some details on how to use it. In summary, the measurements listed in the chart are those of the rider and not of the suit. Map you measurements to the correct size. We have taken the guess work out of sizing, as the suit is designed to fit in the riding position. So for example, size S lists the inseam as 30”. That means that the rider should have a max inseam of 30”, the suit itself is longer than 30” to accommodate how the pants rise in the riding position. <o:p></o:p>
Have you considered having a pictoral reference on your www site indicating where you are taking the measurements on the body? That way users can more easily match your reference measurments and better determine their sizing.
I can post this as well. I will update in the next few days <o:p></o:p>
Is the suit designed so that there is a way to get cords for heated gear out with minimal water leakage potential?
You can use the side entry pockets to take out cords for heated gear. <o:p></o:p>
What are the recommended temperature ranges for your two different suits?
Interesting question. I will post information about this soon as well. It is difficult to determine though as everyone has their own comfort levels when it comes to weather. <o:p></o:p>
Does the interior liner have it's own zipper to minimize draft problems?
The liner is attached to the suit via a zipper. <o:p></o:p>
Thanks again!
<o:p></o:p>
-Josh S.

teizms 03-06-2009 10:56 PM

greenfly - size S would be fine for you. will be posting the chart in html format soon.

mrpete64 03-07-2009 02:20 AM

Good luck with you new business
 
I am sure that this product will be good for the $$$. If it is not...the internet will kill his business....along with your comments. I think it is only fair to give this person a chance to get his product out to the biking community and see how people like the product.

MaxPower 03-08-2009 08:01 AM

Tall sizing
 
I posted this in an email to the company.

"I have been following the thread on ADVrider.com I have a quick size question. As a tall person I have a problem finding items that fit. what would you suggest 6'4" tall 35 inch inseam standing 36" waist 35 inch sleeve 29 inch neck to crotch 44" chest in a sport coat 220 pounds. Any ideas or plans.?"


Dose anyone else have problems finding clothing to fit taller athletic guys like myself?

2slow 03-08-2009 10:37 AM

One-piece for taller riders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxPower
I posted this in an email to the company.

"I have been following the thread on ADVrider.com I have a quick size question. As a tall person I have a problem finding items that fit. what would you suggest 6'4" tall 35 inch inseam standing 36" waist 35 inch sleeve 29 inch neck to crotch 44" chest in a sport coat 220 pounds. Any ideas or plans.?"


Dose anyone else have problems finding clothing to fit taller athletic guys like myself?

At 6' 3", 200 pounds I have not found any one piece suit that comes close to fitting. I haven't seen the Rev'It Infiniti which lists tall sizes.

Most suits are huge in the waist, which is a nuisance but can be accommodated. What makes them unusable is that all are too short in the torso for me. I can put them on but can't sit on the bike. After years of looking I'm resigned to buying separate jackets and pants. At least some manufacturers have tall sizes.

DakarBlues 03-08-2009 03:49 PM

wWdgie or squashed balls, you choose
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2slow
At 6' 3", 200 pounds I have not found any one piece suit that comes close to fitting. I haven't seen the Rev'It Infiniti which lists tall sizes.

Most suits are huge in the waist, which is a nuisance but can be accommodated. What makes them unusable is that all are too short in the torso for me. I can put them on but can't sit on the bike. After years of looking I'm resigned to buying separate jackets and pants. At least some manufacturers have tall sizes.

I have the same problem, 6'3, 37" inseam, 35 sleeve, 46 chest, 180 lbs.
I generally wear XXL even though my waist is 35.
In terms of 1-piece suit, it has always been the cornelian choice of wedgie or squashed balls, sometime the two offered at the same time.
Hope that Teizm will offer something against those equally unpleasant predicaments.

teizms 03-08-2009 04:09 PM

folks,
i have been receiving alot of requests for taller suits. till now, its bin something like this on average:

height 6'3
chest 44
waist 34-36
inseam 34

please keep posting your size information, so if we need to add sizes then we do so based on a large pool of data. hopefully, if there is enough demand, we can add more sizes. we recently added a 4xl.

if you are tall and skinny, make some comments on this post:
http://ghazifarooq.com/forums/index.php?topic=6.0
this will help us keep your information in mind when we think about revising sizes.

thanks

teizms 03-09-2009 06:05 PM

Folks...
the color swatches have been uploaded
http://teizms.com/product-features
thanks

NortwestRider 03-09-2009 08:55 PM

Is there any chance that you will be accepting PAYPAL in the near future.If you do it will help convince the people like myself that have been BURNED over the internet before to take a chance and buy your suit.ALSO is there a full on WATERPROOF suit on the way.I live in seattle and ride EVERYDAY rain,and SNOW .

MillCreek 03-09-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NortwestRider
Is there any chance that you will be accepting PAYPAL in the near future.If you do it will help convince the people like myself that have been BURNED over the internet before to take a chance and buy your suit.ALSO is there a full on WATERPROOF suit on the way.I live in seattle and ride EVERYDAY rain,and SNOW .

Excuse the thread drift, but FYI, my Olympia Phantom suit keeps me warm and dry in our Seattle weather. If you ever see a rider in a neon-green Phantom on an Aprilia Scarabeo 500 or a Suzuki DR650SE, wave, because it will be me! I also point out that in our dark and dreary weather, the neon green really stands out.

keiji 03-09-2009 10:05 PM

From an old e-mail I exchanged with him, the suit has a waterproof liner, but the main zipper isn't a waterproof zipper. From the pictures of the zipper arrangement, it looks like a stitch, and probably has the same potential for wet crotch, but otherwise keeps the rain out.

From my understanding of "waterproofing" garments, any zippered vent that is stitched into the fabric and allows air flow past the waterproof membrane has a chance to leak through the stitching. It is impossible to seal those stitches with traditional seam tape, so you aren't going to find a more expensive process like seam welding on a low cost jacket. You can seal those stitches with a liquid seam sealant, but no company is going to do it themselves because it is very time intensive.

Olympia AST's will leak at the vent-pockets for this reason, as well as the rear vents and the arm vents. I would imagine the phantom suffers the same fault.

At least the guy behind Teiz motorsports is honest about what his product can't do.

teizms 03-10-2009 12:20 AM

folks, we are getting alottttt of emails and i try to post the ones with general questions that might address your concerns as well.

here is another long query that i want to share with you.

Hello, answers to your questions are below: <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
On the VENTED 1 piece suit are the VENTED areas waterproof??.<o:p></o:p>
In short, Yes. The vents have waterproof zippers. See if this helps<o:p></o:p>
http://ghazifarooq.com/forums/index.php?topic=11.0<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Is the suit designed for wearing OVER clothes??.<o:p></o:p>
Yes this is intended to be an over-suit. But people have their own preferences on usage. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Are all the colors available in the 4XL size??.<o:p></o:p>
Colors available for 4XL – Black, Red, Blue, Dark Gray, Light Gray<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Is the thermo liner removable??.<o:p></o:p>
Yes, via a zipper<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
And last but not least..WHY SO CHEAP??.The talk in the LDR community is that the price reflects the quality!!.As you know the Aerostich is a GREAT suit but VERY $$$.I have been saving for a roadcrafter,BUT I just heard about your suit and the price is VERY,VERY good,If the quality is at the same level as the roadcrafter I'm ready to buy.<o:p></o:p>
There are other products out there that are also priced lower than the Stich. Can we automatically assume that they are inferior products simply based on the price? There are several reasons why there is a price difference but the two main reasons are (a) operational costs and (b) brand. <o:p></o:p>
Anyway, we are offering a phenomenal product for an amazing price. If our quality isn’t up to par, we won’t last very long because the customers in this segment are fanatical about their gear. So it is in our best interest to make sure the quality is extremely high and provides a lot of value. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
I ride EVERYDAY of the year in Seattle.Today was snow and 32 degrees.ANY suit I buy HAS to be 100% waterproof ,WARM and VERY,VERY durable.<o:p></o:p>
No suit will be 100% waterproof, despite that statement on the marketing material. The new Revit, costing $1300, perhaps might be due to the scuba zipper and so on, but I personally have not tested it. The Stich, as you can easily find by doing research on the internet, is definitely not 100% waterproof . We have tried very hard to make our suit waterproof yet affordable. There is a built in waterproof liner. The vents have waterproof zippers. Several pockets are waterproof. There are Velcro covers on most zippers. You can achieve further waterproofing by spending very little money (around $10) and buy a waterproofing spray or seam tapes. This is the method used by Stich users as well. In summary, this suit is comparable to the Stich in terms of waterproofing. <o:p></o:p>
Here is our waterproof policy:<o:p></o:p>
http://teizms.com/customer-service#answer2<o:p></o:p>
I want you to buy the product knowing exactly what it is capable of instead of tricking you. If you look around, most motorcycle apparel advertised as 100% waterproof employs liners similar to our Drench Quench liner. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Here is a brief comparison to the Stich:<o:p></o:p>
http://teizms.com/pdf/pricecomparo.pdf <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
I would really appreciate it if you could point me to the forums where you folks are discussing this suit. I would love to answer any other questions you or your fellow riders may have. Feel free to forward my response to any one else interested. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Thanks <o:p></o:p>

teizms 03-10-2009 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NortwestRider
Is there any chance that you will be accepting PAYPAL in the near future.If you do it will help convince the people like myself that have been BURNED over the internet before to take a chance and buy your suit.ALSO is there a full on WATERPROOF suit on the way.I live in seattle and ride EVERYDAY rain,and SNOW .

I do accept Paypal on the teizms.com website. Is it not working for you? if you want, i can directly accept payment through paypal as well. Just email me the details of what you are interested in and we can discuss in detail how to ensure that you are completey satisfied with the transaction and ordering process.

What exactly do you mean by burned ?was your product never sent or was different from what you expected. ?

MillCreek 03-10-2009 07:52 AM

My Olympia gear does not leak at the vents, as long as I have the vents closed and the velcro cover secured over the zippers. I imagine that if I did ride in the rain with the vents open, I would get water intrusion through the vents. A friend of mine has a Roadcrafter suit, and after using it and my Phantom, feels that the Phantom is considerably more water-resistant than his Roadcrafter.


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