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neduro 04-20-2010 02:32 PM

Double Take Mirror- a new (and better) Dual Sport Mirror
 
I have never found a satisfactory dualsport mirror. All of them are prone to breakage, or they don't really get out of the way when folded, or they are lousy for actually seeing what's behind you (and some manage to have all three faults). Last fall, I dropped my bike and found myself buying two(!) new master cylinders as a result, and I decided it was time to make a really good mirror, one that would function well as a mirror, and also protect the bike (and me) from damage.

I had three goals for my design:

1) That it work as well as an OEM mirror for seeing what was going on behind;
2) that it could fold completely out of the way, safe from giving or receiving damage when offroad;
3) and, that it be tough. Ideally, it would even have some ability to give in a crash and prevent damage not only to the mirror, but also to the bike.

Many experiments later, and I am happy to say I've found the answer.

http://neduro.smugmug.com/photos/842903041_gWSAs-L.jpg

I give you the Double Take Mirror.

The benefits of this system are many, but let me expand on a few.

First, because there are two ball joints, you have the ability to position it exactly where you want it, both when extended for viewing, and also when folded away. On most bikes, you can fold it perfectly along the handlebars, out of the way of any conceivable crash, and without blocking the view of the speedometer or GPS.

http://neduro.smugmug.com/photos/842902135_hXLkx-L.jpg

http://neduro.smugmug.com/photos/842896099_5E2w6-L.jpg

Second, because there is adjustable tension, it is easy to position it and then lock it in place. The system uses RAM-Mount components, which are well known for their durability and effectiveness.

http://neduro.smugmug.com/photos/842908931_2iWzp-L.jpg

http://neduro.smugmug.com/photos/842907897_gFVEo-L.jpg

Third, the joints are stiff enough to hold the mirror at triple digit speeds, but will move if they are struck, which protects you from injury and your bike from damage. I'm sure it is possible to break the mirror, but I haven't succeeded yet and I've tried pretty hard, going so far as to race an enduro with the mirror in place. The body is made from 43% glass filled Zytel, which is really tough stuff.

Other benefits:
- Easy to remove the mirror entirely- just loosen the RAM arm, and remove it along with the mirror.
- Convex lens- we used SAE spec convex glass that provides a nicer field of view than a flat piece would, while retaining the ability to focus on details. Are those Crown Victoria headlights, or can I speed up?
- Universal fit- You can easily swap the mirrors between bikes.
- Can be positioned further out than a stock mirror, resulting in seeing more of what is behind you and less of your elbow.

The mirror is available here, and it costs $25. If you need RAM components, we also stock and sell the parts you'll need for your bike.

Rapid Dog 04-20-2010 03:44 PM

Brilliant!
 
...ordered :drif

oregoncoast 04-20-2010 03:50 PM

Great idea...ill be ordering one. RAM mounts are the bomb..I've done so much with them!

kizniche 04-20-2010 05:55 PM

Ball size
 
What diameter is the ball-stud and mirror ball? I'd like to look into what options I have to mount my GPS to the setup.

neduro 04-20-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizniche
What diameter is the ball-stud and mirror ball? I'd like to look into what options I have to mount my GPS to the setup.

Both are RAM size B: 1"

Backwoods Boogie 04-21-2010 08:48 AM

Ordered.

Thanks Neduro!

husky123 04-21-2010 11:01 AM

Very cool. Simple, straight forward design. Great website too. Love the "build your mirror" feature.:clap

DualSport650 04-21-2010 02:21 PM

Great idea!

I always break dualsport mirrors when I smack 'em
on tree branches, forest critters, etc. :lol3

I think I'll buy some! :clap

VStromNC 04-21-2010 02:35 PM

Damn, I did not see this until today. I just ordered Ken Sean Enduro Mirror after getting tired of not being able to see behind me on my plated KLX450R with my current useless Acerbis DS mirror.

I guess I will try the Ken Sean and if it does not work, I will put it on flea market and get these. Great idea as ram mounts are nearly indestructible.

Jon

DC950 04-21-2010 03:37 PM

all right Ned, I need two but ordered one to try out. I think I've broken 3 mirrors on my 640 so far; I'm looking forward to one that works and stays alive.

Swamp Rat 04-21-2010 04:00 PM

Now that is just slick, ranks right up there with the lightbulb only better.
:clap



Gonna have to order one when I order my videos!

:ricky :ricky

xdbx 04-21-2010 09:51 PM

What's the story with the reflector? Can you post a picture of how that's implemented?

wachs 04-22-2010 12:53 AM

Finally! Nice work Ned - what took you so long?

Region Riley 04-22-2010 08:02 AM

Best mirrors ever!

My husband and I were lucky enough to have a few mirrors to try out a couple of weeks ago in Utah.

On the hubby's SE

http://cvestal.smugmug.com/Motorcycl...83_ARx7Y-L.jpg

On my 250XCF-w

http://regionriley.smugmug.com/Motor...3ZRqk-XL-1.jpg

We rode a lot of rough gravel road and even at over 60mph, I could see clearly behind me. I also did some slickrock trails, but forgot to tuck away the mirror. The mirror held up well to my abuse, it even survived a few low speeds drops on the slickrock!

wonky 04-22-2010 08:30 AM

I crash a lot, its survived where most of the other plastics failed (rear fender and a handguard that day!)

:clap
http://wonky.smugmug.com/Other/doubl...78_qqC4d-M.jpg


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