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Beach40 10-21-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by D.T.
Nice bike!

Still not a fan of the triple motor. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass updated Vstrom 800 just like the new Tiger? :becca

Why don't you like the triple motor? What experience have you had not to like it?

RockyMtnScotsman 10-21-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by D.T.
Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass updated Vstrom 800 just like the new Tiger? :becca


With Suzuki holding back from shipping new Stroms here as they have in recent years, don't hold your breath.

wrecked'em 10-21-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by D.T.
Nice bike!

Still not a fan of the triple motor. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass updated Vstrom 800 just like the new Tiger? :becca

have you ridden one?
ridden this one?

bug67 10-21-2010 09:15 PM

Yeah. I don't get how anybody doesn't like this engine. I guess if you don't, you don't. :huh:scratch:loco

For me, It was decided way before any of these rumors started. If Triumph ever decided to build a more dirt oriented Tiger with the same engine that's in my Street Triple, I said to my self, I'll dump the GS in a heart beat!

That engine is the most emotional, visceral and engaging engine I have ever experienced.

So, here I am, GS-less waiting for Santa to stop by my dealer. Deposit already laid down sight unseen...all because of that engine!

Roam 10-21-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by craigincali
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Dont get me wrong, I am not bashing the bike. I dont know enough about it yet to have a solid opinion. One thing is for sure they made no effort to set themselves apart from BMW in the style department. I dont know what I was hoping for but, this aint it...as far as looks go.

The looks are definitely uninspired and fall a bit short of the F800GS. The gauges on the Triumph seem much nicer though. But then I find the gauges of the F8GS to be so bad as to be offensive.

Lion BR 10-21-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hughtwg
The looks are definitely uninspired and fall a bit short of the F800GS. The gauges on the Triumph seem much nicer though. But then I find the gauges of the F8GS to be so bad as to be offensive.

That's how taste is just what it is, a very individual and very biased perception of things:

I do like the needle dials for the rpm and speed in the F800GS. With the corner of the eye you know where you are. And it is nice to see them moving. :evil I wish all bikes had gauges like that (even if they had to be digital). The worst looking digital gauge is the one on the Multistrada 1200, the worst analog is that thing on the v-strom. My opinion, of course. The Tiger 800 appears to be in the middle somewhere, for me. Not a deal breaker, not something I wished for.

About the looks, the Tiger 800 looks good and is growing on me. It could improve a lot if its frame is painted in black. My opinion. But then it would look even closer to the 800GS. And some people would have problems with that - not even Freud explains the "hate" some people experience towards a machine or a brand. What have it done to you?:rofl

Then again, some people own a v-strom. :puke1 Which really proves beyond doubt that taste really is something strange, individual, and irrational. :lol3

This new Tiger looks awesome overall. If it will be an off-road performer, well, it will remain to be seen. Our speculation will go as far as nowhere. Meanwhile let's hope for it to be a great addition to the gradient of options and choices we have in the so-called adventure market.

Lion

Tripped1 10-21-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bug67

That engine is the most emotional, visceral and engaging engine I have ever experienced.


The T595 955cc is "the" motor for me, but the 675 is a hella fun and VERY eager to please as well.

CA Stu 10-21-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wrecked'em
have you ridden one?
ridden this one?

Of course not, ya silly goose.

With the right gearing, I hope I can climb a tree with this thing...

Thanks
Montesa Stu

bug67 10-21-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CA Stu
With the right gearing, I hope I can climb a tree with this thing...

Thanks
Montesa Stu

+1 :lol3

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Lenz1 10-21-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JBird
............Wet sump motor makes maintenance easier. People complain about the look of the sump, give me a break, an oil tank with a sight gauge is no thing of beauty.

I don't think any of these points have grasped the significance of a dry sump with remote oil tank. Not only does it allow a lower placement of the entire engine and transmission, it also allows lower placement of structure above the engine. The aesthetics of a wet sump and minor + / - of maintenance is irrelevant.

fivehitsweak 10-22-2010 12:03 AM

I understand peoples worries about the CofG but I think it is unfair to judge actual mechanical aspects of the bike based on the pictures we have seen. I am all for Judging it aesthetically :wink: but I would say that Triumphs reputation for making sweet handling bikes speaks for its self, so as far as handling goes I am quite prepared to pass a verdict of innocent until proven guilty!

I guess it is also important to remember that this isn't a "dirt bike" It is an adventure bike, therefore there will always be a trade off between it's off-road and on-road usability. I applaud Triumph for at least trying to appeal to both road focused and off-road focused riders by simultaneously releasing 2 variations of the same modal. I think It would be a huge gamble for any company to release a full on hardcore off-road adventure machine right now. With the economic climate being how it is I think we are very lucky that there are manufacturers who are still willing to develop and release from the ground up new modals at all, but these manufacturers have to invest their money in an area of the market which provides them with a good chance of profitable return. Unfortunately the market for hardcore off-road adventure machines is still very small, where as the dual sport market seems to be growing rapidly at the moment, perhaps because people like my self cannot justify the cost of having 2 bikes anymore, therefore crossovers offer us the most versatility for our money. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a brace of full on off-road no concession adventure bikes come out, I am all for market diversity, I just tend to think that unfortunately the current economic climate is narrowing manufacturers money making options.

RaY YreKa 10-22-2010 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fivehitsweak
With the economic climate being how it is I think we are very lucky that there are manufacturers who are still willing to develop and release from the ground up new modals at all, but these manufacturers have to invest their money in an area of the market which provides them with a good chance of profitable return. Unfortunately the market for hardcore off-road adventure machines is still very small, where as the dual sport market seems to be growing rapidly at the moment, perhaps because people like my self cannot justify the cost of having 2 bikes anymore, therefore crossovers offer us the most versatility for our money.

That's a very valid point when you consider non-USA customers. I've said it before, it's rare for a Yurpeen to have a 'stable' of bikes, we usually need them to fulfil a number of roles. The GS series are huge in the UK and Germany, perhaps because they are fast(enough), practical, fun, and can cope with our climate.

The Tiger 800 could be all those things, plus it's faster and lighter than the GS and Stroms.

jeffs900s 10-22-2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by D.T.
Nice bike!

Still not a fan of the triple motor. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass updated Vstrom 800 just like the new Tiger? :becca

You've clearly never spent much time on a Triumph triple.

nomosnow 10-22-2010 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by D.T.
Nice bike!

Still not a fan of the triple motor. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass updated Vstrom 800 just like the new Tiger? :becca

I am a fan of a triple . Question should be .. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass Vstrom 800 triple? :wink:

arrcrussell 10-22-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CA Stu
Note the lack of a rider and no suspension compression.

Good Point.

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Originally Posted by CA Stu
... Are you guys really finding fault ...
CA Stu

Who said it was a "fault" , I simply made an observation.

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Originally Posted by CA Stu
The swingarm linkage hangs below the frame on damn near every, if not all, bike(s) out there in an unloaded capacity on the sidestand, I bet.

CA Stu

Not on my XR400 nor my XR650R.

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Originally Posted by CA Stu
... before you post such ridiculous garbage. ...

CA Stu

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black. Take deep breathe before you blow a gasket.

The suspension will travel, especially off road, and if (note the word "if") at times it does extend below the skid plate into the wash of the front tire it will increase the opportunity of stones, grit, slop etc. to affect the wear and tear on the pivot points. Will this happen on this bike - don't know, buts its something to consider as we "armchair" engineers kick tires over photos.


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