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hasenwerk 08-25-2010 09:47 PM

Mitas E09 Dakar Tires
 
As a part of my 21" front wheel project, I purchased some Mitas E09 Dakar tires from mx1canada.com - I must say that they are some awesome looking tires that are a serious competitor to the Continental TKC-80 for about half the price.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/...3d3916d1_b.jpg
Mounted Tire

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/...f8ac08b2_b.jpg
13mm tread depth

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/...c75a5d55_b.jpg
The tires measure as they read - so the 140-80-17 is 1cm narrower than the 150-70-17

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/...6a10b7b9_b.jpg
The worn 150-70-17 has 30mm clearance to the shock support

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/...abfca706_b.jpg
The new 140-80-17 has about 25 or 26mm of clearance to the shock support

Took the 1100 GS for a quick ride after installing the rear tire (still have 19" TKC 80 on front - 21" wheel is between Woody's and here) and the traction is fantastic on both asphalt and compact gravel roads.

Now to see how long they will last - but for $120 Canadian which includes overnight shipping - it's a DEAL compared to the TKC 80

makazica 08-26-2010 02:26 AM

E09's are notoriously famous for loosing grip on wet tarmac and you'll burn them if riding mostly on paved roads. They are good when new, but they don't last long......

hasenwerk 08-26-2010 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makazica
E09's are notoriously famous for loosing grip on wet tarmac and you'll burn them if riding mostly on paved roads. They are good when new, but they don't last long......

I rode to work this morning (12km tarmac) in drizzle and +12C weather - so wet roads and no chance to get the tires warmed up. I have a 50% TKC on the front and the new E09 on the rear. I can honestly say that new tire didn't feel weird or anything like that. Mind you I wasn't hammering it in the corners, but I don't ride like that in the rain anyhow. We'll see once I get a few more kilometers on there how well they behave.

I am not expecting mega miles from these tires. If they last as long as a TKC 80 then I will be more than happy seeing how they are half the price.

hasenwerk 10-13-2010 09:43 PM

I changed over my differential this afternoon so I took some photos of my rear tire at 3500km of about 98% medium load highway use at 2.6 bar air pressure. My caliper's ruler bit is a little off, so new is 130.0mm and at 3500km they are at 96.5mm

I have had a few people say these tires suck in the wet and cold. I can say I have experienced no such issues with these tires. I go to work every morning in the wet and darn near freezing temperatures and never had issue bad experiences or felt uneasy with these tires. Rode the Columbia Ice Fields at -2C to +2C and they felt great!

So far, I think the Mitas E-09 Dakar rear tire is much superior to the Continental TKC-80 in both price, wear rate and equal in performance on highway and off-road. Really a win win situation with a decent European made tire... can't say that about the TKCs lately...

The front tire (90/90-21"), I don't like as much - I would say it is half shot at this moment. Way softer than the rear tire... will probably not get the same front tire again.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/...0b70df82_b.jpg

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tmex 10-14-2010 03:34 AM

I greatly prefer th E09 out back relative to the TKC80. I get about double the mileage, the E09 is much better off road, and I have had no issues in the wet with either tire. I do like the TKC80 product and have burned through several sets, but I think the E09 is better all around.

1coolbanana 10-14-2010 07:10 PM

Do you run tubes in your E-09's?

Ive been trying the new rear E10's lately (been through 2 now) and they are terrible :huh

Maybe worth trying an E09?

tmex 10-14-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1coolbanana
Do you run tubes in your E-09's?

Ive been trying the new rear E10's lately (been through 2 now) and they are terrible :huh

Maybe worth trying an E09?

I do not run tubes with the R12GS, but do use do use tubes everywhere else. The Mitas tires are not great on the front. Perhaps that is your issue. I prefer the MT21 or D606 up front.

1coolbanana 10-14-2010 08:23 PM

I also have a GS and no tubes.
Only referring to rear tyres.
I was asking as I thought the E09 is a tube tyre so wasnt sure if you were using tubes or not.
Only use TKC or Karoo T on the front 19.

Only had issues since switching to the E10 rear.
Wouldnt have another.

tmex 10-14-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1coolbanana
I also have a GS and no tubes.
Only referring to rear tyres.
I was asking as I thought the E09 is a tube tyre so wasnt sure if you were using tubes or not.
Only use TKC or Karoo T on the front 19.

Only had issues since switching to the E10 rear.
Wouldnt have another.

I believe the E09 is rated for tubeless use.

1coolbanana 10-14-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmex
I believe the E09 is rated for tubeless use.

Excellent, may give one a go next then :D

hasenwerk 10-15-2010 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1coolbanana
Do you run tubes in your E-09's?

Ive been trying the new rear E10's lately (been through 2 now) and they are terrible :huh

Maybe worth trying an E09?

I have an Excel 21x1.85 at the front so a tube is necessary there. I have the OE BMW rear wheel and I do run a tube in that as well. The tires are marked TT so I am not taking chances.

I am really impressed with the E09 - at least the rear tire anyhow. The front tire is pretty soft - way softer than the rear. I will post photos this weekend.

I got mine from MX1CANADA.COM:
http://www.mx1canada.com/mitas-e-09-...-69t-rear.html

I think the price whet up a little since I got it, but at $140 - freight included for a tire that's a pretty sweet deal!

Martincito 10-15-2010 07:32 AM

Are you guys are getting with the rear Mitas E09 Dakar Tires twice more mileage than with the rear TKC?
It looks like a TKC front and E09 rear will wear at the same pace.
Do you recommend that combination?

Are the Mitas extremely noisy like the Karoos or they are more like the TKC's?

tmex 10-15-2010 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martincito
Are you guys are getting with the rear Mitas E09 Dakar Tires twice more mileage than with the rear TKC?
It looks like a TKC front and E09 rear will wear at the same pace.
Do you recommend that combination?

Are the Mitas extremely noisy like the Karoos or they are more like the TKC's?

I am running the TKC front and Mitas E09 rear on my F800 as we speak. Did not put a bunch of analysis into it. It just worked out that way.

The E09 out back is quiet like the TKC.

christian 10-16-2010 03:32 PM

do mx1 ship these to USA?

hasenwerk 10-16-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian
do mx1 ship these to USA?

I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do. They are in a section of Vancouver where it is a easy hop-skip-and-a-jump to go across the border. Friend of mine runs a VW parts business and makes daily runs to the USA for their orders. When I was in the VW parts business 90% of my business was from the USA... so I would bet MX1 ships to the USA!


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