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alexlevitt 09-06-2010 06:53 AM

The First Crash
 
I managed to lose control of my bike in a relatively simple situation. Here's a full report of this accident.
http://scooteradventures.blogspot.co...09/atgatt.html

cliffy109 09-06-2010 07:36 AM

That's a good report. I'm very glad you're essentially fine. Its a hard lesson isn't it?

I found this quote in your write-up particularly interesting:

"I was mostly satisfied with the performance of my gear. But I donít think that those little conveniences I achieved by removing some uncomfortable armor were worth the price."

You were geared up a lot better than most scooter riders, yet you still found out how much sacrafice was involved with the compromises. When I bought both my mesh and my non-mesh pants, the one thing that I required was hip armor. It amazes me how few have it. Even Aerostich makes it an option and its one that most riders don't take. After my crash, I'm very glad it was one thing I didn't compromise. It makes a difference.

madefrtv 09-06-2010 08:16 AM

potentially now (when you are healed and ready) would be a good time to look into experienced rider courses.

nice report, thanks for being a rad ambassador for (un)common sense

Guano11 09-06-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffy109
...the one thing that I required was hip armor. It amazes me how few have it. Even Aerostich makes it an option and its one that most riders don't take. After my crash, I'm very glad it was one thing I didn't compromise. It makes a difference.

I didn't have the optional hip armor in my 'Stich when I crashed -- and wished I did afterward!
You can bet I have it now, as well as the optional back protector.

fast4d 09-06-2010 10:39 AM

good job on the gear.:clap

Navy Chief 09-06-2010 05:27 PM

Glad to hear you are okay, and that your gear performed adequately.

I am a big believer in hip armour now that I have gone down without it, it is a requirement in any pants I purchase now.

bostonsr 09-06-2010 06:33 PM

scooters are meant for cities.

motorcycles are meant for wide open spaces.

those tires belong on a lawnmower.

congrats on being kinda atgatt on a scooter.

mods should put this in FP, since you ACTUALLY fell off.

abe

Zerk 09-06-2010 06:39 PM

If you would have had a pirate's leather jacket, you probably would be better off, atleast the jacket would have held up better. Other then reniforced pants, which are not as good as chaps, you pretty much were a pirate. :D


Glad your ok.

LuciferMutt 09-06-2010 06:42 PM

How does this not belong in face plant?

rivercreep 09-06-2010 07:08 PM

F.W.I.W. I wouldn't count on the helmet being undamaged even if there are no visible signs on it's exterior.

Went down on my GSX1100G many years ago and never remembered hitting my head and the helmet showed no outward, visible damage.
Years later when that helmet had grown old and way tooo skanky, I cut it apart to see how it was made.
There, inside the helmet, was a spider-web cracks on the inside of the helmet and beneath it, crushed foam.
Had I hit my head again in that same spot = It would have offered no protection.
My lesson was learned that day. You go down, you throw it out. Period!

Zerk 09-06-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivercreep
F.W.I.W. I wouldn't count on the helmet being undamaged even if there are no visible signs on it's exterior.

If the helmet was in good shape, you should see a scuff, I would think, or scratch.

I don't want to tell the guy not to get a new helmet, its his head, and you just don't know.

Gizmo 09-06-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffy109
That's a good report. I'm very glad you're essentially fine. Its a hard lesson isn't it?

I found this quote in your write-up particularly interesting:

"I was mostly satisfied with the performance of my gear. But I donít think that those little conveniences I achieved by removing some uncomfortable armor were worth the price."

You were geared up a lot better than most scooter riders, yet you still found out how much sacrafice was involved with the compromises. When I bought both my mesh and my non-mesh pants, the one thing that I required was hip armor. It amazes me how few have it. Even Aerostich makes it an option and its one that most riders don't take. After my crash, I'm very glad it was one thing I didn't compromise. It makes a difference.

+1, spot on.

rivercreep 09-07-2010 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerk
If the helmet was in good shape, you should see a scuff, I would think, or scratch.

I don't want to tell the guy not to get a new helmet, its his head, and you just don't know.

That was my point for telling my story...no outward visible damage, not even a scuff or scratch. ('m assuming my head hit something soft enough along the shoulder of the road that protected it's shell but, it still absorbed the impact from within from my skull):eek1

The surprise I had when I tore down that old helmet years later was NOT a good one but, better than being surprised had my head impacted something between the last accident and when I threw it out.
F.W.I.W. it was a Shoei RF model. (900 series from what I remember)

bush pilot 09-07-2010 03:12 PM

Yea this should be in FP. Good report, thanks.

Zerk 09-07-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivercreep
That was my point for telling my story...no outward visible damage, not even a scuff or scratch. ('m assuming my head hit something soft enough along the shoulder of the road that protected it's shell but, it still absorbed the impact from within from my skull):eek1

The surprise I had when I tore down that old helmet years later was NOT a good one but, better than being surprised had my head impacted something between the last accident and when I threw it out.
F.W.I.W. it was a Shoei RF model. (900 series from what I remember)

How do you know how good it is in from the factory? You should cut open your new one to check:D Hell they probably bounce those things out the factory into truck, and off.

Guys are probably using them for forklift joisting.


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