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Beater 12-06-2010 01:32 PM

Any Secret to getting the top nut off an Airhead Triple Tree?
 
I'm befuddled.

Bought the 36mm socket.
Even have the breaker bar.
Soaked all three in liquid wrench.
Several times.

None of them budge.

Thoughts?

:becca

Renner 12-06-2010 02:43 PM

air impact wrench
it helps having one with adjustable torque

you've taken the internal chamfer off the socket end for full engagement?

danedg 12-06-2010 05:12 PM

http://danedgcomb.smugmug.com/Motorc...71_2ZFui-M.jpg

Like this??:lurk

MacRunch 12-06-2010 05:15 PM

Pick up a heavy piece of pipe at least 3 ft long. Place it over your breaker bar and just wrench away. It's all about leverage. I believe I read one time that Matt Parkhill uses an old airhead fork slider tube to extend the breaker bar.

kixtand 12-06-2010 05:22 PM

In removing the three (3) nuts on top of the triple tree particular attention needs to be paid to how the fork is held / braced to allow said removal. Do NOT use the fork stop for this task!!! I have seen folks that have fashioned a bracket/bar that mounts in the handlebar riser holes, and that seems to be an easy enough solution.

Please note that even more care must be taken when reinstalling and applying the proper torque to the three (3) nuts as it is easy to twist the forks if you are not careful...

YMMV--

kix

Beater 12-06-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renner (Post 14639396)
air impact wrench
it helps having one with adjustable torque
you've taken the internal chamfer off the socket end for full engagement?

Just tried again ... no dice.
Don't have an air impact wrench ...
Not sure what you mean by the 'internal chamfer' ... but here are some pics that show what's going on.

This first one is a shot of all three nuts ... I can't budge any one of them.
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...T/DSC07960.jpg

New 36mm socket on the end of a breaker bar.
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...T/DSC07963.jpg

Inside the socket?
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...T/DSC07964.jpg

Is there an internal chamfer that I'm not seeing?

Thanks in advance ...

danedg 12-06-2010 05:33 PM

Hit it with your OTHER purse!
 
Put a chunk of pipe on it and twist the sucker offa there.....:gdog:gdog

bgoodsoil 12-06-2010 05:35 PM

those nuts are real narrow. See how the inside of the socket tapers out a bit? That little bit might be half the thickness of the nut. Makes it easy to round 'em off.

Beater 12-06-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danedg (Post 14640788)
Put a chunk of pipe on it and twist the sucker offa there.....:gdog:gdog

Believe it or not ... I did that. I broke the pipe. No sh!t.

I guess it's time for a bigger pipe. :lol3

Beater 12-06-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgoodsoil (Post 14640812)
those nuts are real narrow. See how the inside of the socket tapers out a bit? That little bit might be half the thickness of the nut. Makes it easy to round 'em off.

I'll do that too ... Thanks.

You need to drop by and see my TWO new one's. :lol3

I think Greta will get G/Sified. Thoughts?

Renner 12-06-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beater (Post 14640735)
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...T/DSC07963.jpg

Inside the socket?
Is there an internal chamfer that I'm not seeing?

In the center of the pic. The socket leading edge.. chamfered so it goes over the nut easily.
Grind the end flat so the socket 'teeth' engage directly.
This is mostly only critical for nuts with low profiles like the spring retaining nuts either side of the steering stem center nut.
Those being aluminum... you want full purchase or rounding of the nut corners may result.

Facing the socket on a bench grinder isn't as difficult as one might imagine. Use something flat to check your progress.
http://renner60.smugmug.com/Other/Ai...76_bg6AB-L.jpg

danedg 12-06-2010 05:42 PM

Heat
 
you can put a torch on it, might blister the paint...heat gun works pretty good

when you grind the socket down it'll get cherry red...dunk it in water real quick and it'll retemper {harden} the alloy...
next time you'll put neverseize on the bastard.....you won't have this problem

Beater 12-06-2010 05:55 PM

So I took bgoodsoil's advice, and ground down the socket.
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...T/DSC07968.jpg

Then I took danedg's advice and extended the torque arm. But I couldn't find a larger pipe. But an old tire iron will do.
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...T/DSC07969.jpg

Anyway ... I just crushed my thumb ... but all three came off (with a little screaming)

Thanks! :freaky

Beater 12-06-2010 05:59 PM

Renner! Thanks! I didn't realize that's what chamfer'd meant ... :shog
Kixstand! Thanks ... I didn't do it ... but I will when it comes to putting them back one ..

Thanks ya'll!

Renner 12-06-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgoodsoil (Post 14640812)
those nuts are real narrow. See how the inside of the socket tapers out a bit? That little bit might be half the thickness of the nut. Makes it easy to round 'em off.

nice, succint explanation.
my keyboard skills are also lagging :D

Good job Beater
hope the thumb is feeling better :thumb


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