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Ni3ous 01-08-2011 02:13 AM

Road Book Holder
 
Does anybody have any experience with Free to Ride Road books?


http://www.f2r.pt/epages/f2r.sf/en_G...ucts/RB730-001

http://www.shrani.si/f/9/Wf/4ruwwMqo/rb730-0.png

http://www.shrani.si/f/3T/GL/33rggrbK/rb730-1.jpg

http://www.shrani.si/f/1A/10Y/2Ksg0yxF/rb730-2.jpg

http://www.shrani.si/f/A/KC/444xvuP1/rb730-3.jpg

http://www.shrani.si/f/2E/DO/1pdhEwwo/rb730-9.jpg

We might need it this year, so I am looking for electrical road book.
Any other electrical would do.
It must be big enough to use 145 mm wide road book.
If someone know for some used ones, also interested.

Please for some answers. Thank you.

schattat 01-08-2011 02:57 AM

Talk to inmate "Hayduke". I believe he's got quite a bit of knowledge on these things! :deal

LukasM 01-08-2011 03:44 AM

There were also a couple of group buys in the Aussie forum last year, feedback has been very positive from what I have seen.

Definitely a good value for the money.

heinvdm 01-08-2011 07:29 AM

The two most popular roadbook holders are from MD and Touratech. The most popular choice being the MD one as it works with rubber bands and urban legend has it that it is more reliable than the Touratech. Most of this opinion is based on Touratech roadbooks from a few years back that had plastic gears that made them prone to failure. The later Touratech roadbooks have metal gears and are very reliable.

Both are available on the the web for purchase, google them :

Toratech
MD

The roadbook holder discussion has happened a few times on ADVRider, search for the threads as some also discuss the Free-To-Ride roadbook.

http://www.ertf.com/photos/derb212gm.jpg


http://www.touratech-usa.com/media/K...?size=original

Hayduke 01-08-2011 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schattat (Post 14883391)
Talk to inmate "Hayduke". I believe he's got quite a bit of knowledge on these things! :deal

:wave

Yes, I have the F2r roadbook holder- I have used it probably 6 days of roadbook rides, plus probably 20 days of practice with it on the bike, and I've had zero problems with it. Also talk to Neduro; he's used them all and recently got rid of a MD in favor of the F2r. It simply works, and the price is very reasonable.

I also noticed that Tina Meier is using one in Dakar, so it's good enough for me. :lol3

Ni3ous 01-08-2011 07:43 AM

Thanks guys.

MD and Touratech are too expensive if buying new.
Would buy MD or TT second handed for that value as Free to Ride new.
So if someone know for any, just let me know.
Did check Amazon, Ebay... none for sale... :(

lastplace 01-08-2011 09:18 AM

We've used the F2R in our Rally Schools without any trouble. I think they are fine, even for a long rally.

MD is the gold standard and most people use them on rallies so you can always find spare parts when racing. MD did a minor re-design this year so that the MD can now handle very big roadbooks better.

(I have MDs and F2Rs in stock now.)

The touratech roadbook reader is junk, in my opinion. I used one in a rally in Tunisia, and one of our customers had one in the Dakar. We've also ridden practice routes with plenty of people using touratech roadbooks. Everyone had reliability issues with the touratech roadbooks.

zenjen 01-08-2011 09:29 AM

Just checked out your new site Charlie. Nice! - :thumb

italrally 01-08-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastplace (Post 14884998)
We've used the F2R in our Rally Schools without any trouble. I think they are fine, even for a long rally.

MD is the gold standard and most people use them on rallies so you can always find spare parts when racing. MD did a minor re-design this year so that the MD can now handle very big roadbooks better.

(I have MDs and F2Rs in stock now.)

The touratech roadbook reader is junk, in my opinion. I used one in a rally in Tunisia, and one of our customers had one in the Dakar. We've also ridden practice routes with plenty of people using touratech roadbooks. Everyone had reliability issues with the touratech roadbooks.

The KTM rally department, BMW, Yamaha France and David Casteu Sherco are using MD roadbooks since years.
For the MD you get every detail part you need. It is so easy to handle, an alluminium box and a swiss engine are the main parts. MD sold 2010 about 450 roadbooks.
The Touratech roadbook holder is not a good one, you can't it repair by your self. About the F2R i don't know nothing.

Ask me for a good price for new MD roadbooks !!!

schattat 01-08-2011 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastplace (Post 14884998)
MD did a minor re-design this year so that the MD can now handle very big roadbooks better.

Not exactly from MD, but a replica that my Portugese friend (who just happens to be running 4th overall in Dakar ATM) told me about and is running on his bike.

http://www.migtecmotos.com/Imagens/p...oadbook_10.jpg

http://www.migtecmotos.com/Imagens/p...oadbook_08.jpg

For 180€ it's a real bargain!!! :eek1 :thumb


Quote:

Originally Posted by lastplace (Post 14884998)
The touratech roadbook reader is junk, in my opinion. I used one in a rally in Tunisia, and one of our customers had one in the Dakar. We've also ridden practice routes with plenty of people using touratech roadbooks. Everyone had reliability issues with the touratech roadbooks.

Yeah, just watch Charley Boorman's "Race To Dakar". Even on day 1 you can see how messed up their reader is :lol3
Plus I've seen many a TT reader that has worn out metal gears from being chewed up from sand getting through :eek1

Ni3ous 01-08-2011 10:57 AM

This looks like a bargain.
Thanks.

Are they reliable as others?

lastplace 01-08-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schattat (Post 14885425)
Not exactly from MD, but a replica that my Portugese friend (who just happens to be running 4th overall in Dakar ATM) told me about and is running on his bike.

Those look good. I'll have to try to get some after the race, even though I never like straight-up knock-offs.

But, that's not the way to mount a roadbook to handlebars! (too far back to read while standing). Try these:

http://www.rallymanagementservices.c...igation-clamps

fun fun
Charlie

schattat 01-08-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastplace (Post 14885708)
Those look good. I'll have to try to get some after the race, even though I never like straight-up knock-offs.

But, that's not the way to mount a roadbook to handlebars! (too far back to read while standing). Try these:

http://www.rallymanagementservices.c...igation-clamps

fun fun
Charlie

I think that pic is just a demo he has lying around in his shop, not an actual setup :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ni3ous (Post 14885635)
This looks like a bargain.
Thanks.

Are they reliable as others?

If Hélder Rodrigues uses them in all his races and can win stages in Dakar, then they have to be reliable, or not? :thumb

italrally 01-08-2011 03:38 PM

Watched eurosport and it seems that on the bike from Rodriguez was mounted an MD roadbook holder !

Seth S 01-08-2011 10:23 PM

I have used the tourtech holder and the MD holder. The tourtech did work but you could tell that if you had a problem...you would have a hard time fixing it. I do have a nearly new tourtech unit I got for my 950 a while back. It has the metal gears...but there are a ton of gears in there and it doesn't look like it would take much to cause a problem.

I found the MD to be very easy to use and the only problem I had was due to me winding my paper roll too tight...this causes the rubber bands to slip.

I did some road book prototyping a few years ago but never finished. My idea was to have two driven rolls and one paper guide making things as compact as possible. Had an idea for using a single chain and 2 1 way roller clutches. Never built it but could do so someday :D


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