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Trang 01-12-2011 08:50 PM

Malles Motos - Dakar
 
Well, after a bit of hunting around, i've had little success with finding information about the "Malles Motos" of Dakar.

What i do know is, that basically you enter the Dakar event as per any other compeditor, and effectivly pay around 500 euros extra, for the service of having 2 trunks (as per pic below), and 2 sets of tyres, transported around the event for you.

These trunks 'leapfrog' each other, for the duration of the event, and carry your spares, tools, sleeping gear etc.

This method enables you to do the event Marathon, with no service, backup crew etc., thus reducing cost etc.


http://dakarricharddegroot.webs.com/kistv.JPG

Link to video:
http://player.sbs.com.au/dakar/#/dak...-Malles-Motos/



I'd really like to know some more information about this method of doing dakar, and what some of the logistics are.

For example, what can you pack in there?
Can you pack a spare engine as per pic, or is this against the rules?

Either way, by the time you pack:
- Spare Parts
- Tools
- Oil
- Oil Filters
- Air Filters
- RB Highlighters
- Spare Underwear
- Socks
- Sleeping Bag
- Sleeping Mat (maybe this is a luxury?)
- Tent
- Toothbrush
- etc.

... it wouldn't take long to fill.

And what about when you get back to base, and you really want a Chair or some Shade?

Should you pack a Warm Jumper/ Raincoat.

Where do you pack your Lollies, Gatoraide?

And your mobile phone, can you charge it somewhere?

I find this facinating.


:ear

garfey 01-13-2011 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by huskyte610e (Post 14927688)
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http://dakarricharddegroot.webs.com/kistv.JPG

For example, what can you pack in there?
Can you pack a spare engine as per pic, or is this against the rules?

Either way, by the time you pack:
- Spare Parts
- Tools
- Oil
- Oil Filters
- Air Filters
- RB Highlighters
- Spare Underwear
- Socks
- Sleeping Bag
- Sleeping Mat (maybe this is a luxury?)
- Tent
- Toothbrush
- etc.
...
... it wouldn't take long to fill.

I find this facinating.

:ear

Not to mention making room for plenty


PPiA 01-13-2011 04:21 AM

I don't know how it is now, but I charged my phone by the ELF table while I worked on the bike. Also had a 12v charger on the bike.
Shade is under one of the big tents where you get your food. You can sleep there too, or take a tent. I managed to sneak a tent and sleeping bag into the back of one of the mechanics vehicles from another competitor :D

ThatCameraKid 01-13-2011 04:23 AM

When Simon Gets back from Dakar, I will take some pictures of his boxes.

He put and entire bike sans the main frame in a third box on The Desert Rose 4x4. Then he had a tent, oil filter for everyday, basic spares a few clothes items, bike stand, some oil (you get it free in the malles moto through elf)

It's impressive what you can get in one. You don't really need food stuffs as the organisers are good with that.

Whoopdefraggindo 01-13-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatCameraKid (Post 14929330)
When Simon Gets back from Dakar, I will take some pictures of his boxes.

I know I'm asking a lot but if you can get a shot with contents in the box, then laid out outside of the box that would be awesome to see how much can actually fit inside. Much respect to anyone who even enters the Dakar, but the people who do it with little to no support are tops in my book.

Oh Yeah, GO PAVEY.

PacificPT 01-13-2011 04:16 PM

Boxes have a weight limit though, if I remember correctly...

doyle 01-13-2011 04:38 PM

Google "Bob Bergman Dakar" for his day by day account of a lone, unsupported Dakar run.

garfey 01-13-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by doyle (Post 14934651)
Google "Bob Bergman Dakar" for his day by day account of a lone, unsupported Dakar run.

Great read - provided earlier by Doyle.

http://www.pete2dakar.com/bob-bergmans-dakar//

MEGO 01-16-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PacificPT (Post 14934484)
Boxes have a weight limit though, if I remember correctly...

In Dakar 2007 the box weight limit was 50 kgs. But maybe it was a limit due to the airplane transport.
Maybe this limit could be higher now with the truck transport.

In Africa when a stage was "marathon" you could not have access to your box.

Sadly after 3/4 days the start order of spares... go wrong. And you got a box full "random" of items...:eek1

It's so difficult to store all the items you need just in one box...
The "2 seconds" tent outside the box, it's not allowed...
If you store some big engine parts, you've no more space for gatorade or other. Maybe in South America you could buy it directly at bivouac or at the city near. Not in Africa... But in winter you do not need so much salt in you camel back.

Not a lot of pants or jacket and when you see the "mud stage" think about maybe they could not change the items next day...
Socket and slip could be same for many days...
And same for tech shirt.

Dakar is not only a bike race...:lol3

ThatCameraKid 01-17-2011 06:39 AM

The limit still sit's at 50kg for each box. And they have stopped doing Marathon stages now too. So people with assistance always have their mechanic. You know have to pay for you two boxes on the organisers truck too.

Tau Anvil 01-19-2011 02:52 AM

Thx for the info. So malles moto is allowed spare engine(s) and marathon class not?

Are you allowed outside assitance from other competitors? How strict are they if you get a chain from somebody else or something?

MEGO 01-19-2011 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tau Anvil (Post 14977702)
Thx for the info. So malles moto is allowed spare engine(s) and marathon class not?

Are you allowed outside assitance from other competitors? How strict are they if you get a chain from somebody else or something?

IMPORTANT: Each bikers got a box, also the Pros, if they want it. But the classement of the "Malles Motos" class is restricted to the riders who did not has mechanics on the race!

Marathon is another type of class. A FIM class. In Marathon (the bikes with M on the front number) the riders could not change some parts of the bike. If I remember: complete fork, mono cross and rear bigfork, chassis, engine case (not the in parts like clutch, gear etc., ) and I think no more.
If you change one of this parts, you will be passed in the SP (Super production) class.
In Africa, before the start of a "marathon" stage, FIM mans put "colours" on your wheels and check it in the night...
During a stage (even if Marathon) you could change every bike parts with the same of your friends. Or with the spare parts you got in your T4 truck, who must be in the race...

The race rules could be more right on.:deal

Tau Anvil 02-01-2011 11:04 AM

more info please.

1. About the motors.
2. When they say tyres do they mean complete wheels or just tyres?

JMo (& piglet) 02-02-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tau Anvil (Post 14977702)
Thx for the info. So malles moto is allowed spare engine(s) and marathon class not?

Exactly.

Quote:

Are you allowed outside assitance from other competitors? How strict are they if you get a chain from somebody else or something?
Yes, all competitors are allowed help from, and to help, other competitors... and in Malles Moto, it is pretty much in the spirit of things to help each other out...

Jx

ps. Just incase anyone was thinking about it, while Malles Moto is slightly cheaper, it is not an easy way to enter your first Dakar... x

Tau Anvil 02-03-2011 02:26 AM

Dankie Jenny

After seeing Mr. Merkits snipped on the Dakar broadcast I have to say it propably loooks "cooler" than it is.:D

I am good friends with Albert Hintenaus we ride together often and he said Desert rose is the best option, however $ as you know is my limiting factor.

Can one buy tyres and mooses from Euromaster?


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