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65bmwr50 03-09-2011 10:28 AM

It's alive!!!!
 
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...0309110913.jpg


After 8 years living in various rubbermaid totes, and getting moved to two different states my 1965 R50/2 runs again.

This bike has a great history with me. My dad and mom were living in Hawaii and bought this bike to get around the island. When they moved back to the mainland in 1970 they shipped the bike with them. It cost the same as a seat on the plane. They flew into Seattle, got some gas for the bike, and started riding. About a week later they got to western Pennsylvania where our family is from. My dad and my uncle rode the bike for the next 5 years and then the floats in the carbs went bad. Fast forward 27 years. Dad gives me the bike to restore it. I lived in Illinois at the time and my Brother-in-law brought it out to me. I bought floats for it and got it running again. I then tore it down to fix it up. While it was in thousand of pieces, my wife gets transferred to Virginia. That was almost 3 years ago. Now it is back together and running. I still have a few things to do such as tuning it and trying to figure out why the brake light and the neutral indicator is on all of the time. Right now I can get it to run but when I try to accelerate it falls flat on its face.

Beater 03-09-2011 12:00 PM

:clap

Beamer Bum 03-09-2011 12:12 PM

:clap:clap Another one on the road.:clap You will love riding it and the family history is unbeatable. Welcome to the Slash 2 world.

Sniper X 03-09-2011 12:16 PM

Sweet.

danedg 03-09-2011 12:19 PM

Brake lite
 
http://danedgcomb.smugmug.com/Motorc...19_Q9VkW-L.jpg

I'll take a stab at the brake lite problem. In the picture, you can see the lever that depresses the brake light switch. It's right behind the clutch lever with the stout spring. You can't see the switch in this pic, it's mounted with them teeny nuts on the back side of the plate, and no matter what you do, it's a pain in the ass to get to it. I remember having to get the 5?mm nuts off from the other side to service the switch.
ANYWAY, the arm is supposed to depress the switch, and keep it there which "breaks" the circuit. When you step on the rear brake lever, the switch post moves forward and "makes" the circuit, actuating the lamp.
Often, the brake lever, the small lever, or the switch itself are misaligned after 46 years, and the small lever doesn't fully depress the switch, and your brake light stays on...:deal
I, stuck a teeny little crutch tip, [visible in photo] on the actuator lever to make up the misalignment. It worked for a while, until I sucked it up and dismantled the whole shebang and set everything up right. You can see the elongated holes for adjustamento...
I'll guarantee you that switch is filled with goopy,tarry,oily grit and grime. Take it off and soak it electrical contact cleaner for a day. If it's ON, then it still works. Or you buy a new one from Vech, it was pretty cheap.

PS, Your headlight ears are upside down
http://danedgcomb.smugmug.com/Motorc...64_fnVGz-L.jpg

65bmwr50 03-09-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danedg (Post 15376688)
http://danedgcomb.smugmug.com/Motorc...19_Q9VkW-L.jpg

I'll take a stab at the brake lite problem. In the picture, you can see the lever that depresses the brake light switch. It's right behind the clutch lever with the stout spring. You can't see the switch in this pic, it's mounted with them teeny nuts on the back side of the plate, and no matter what you do, it's a pain in the ass to get to it. I remember having to get the 5?mm nuts off from the other side to service the switch.
ANYWAY, the arm is supposed to depress the switch, and keep it there which "breaks" the circuit. When you step on the rear brake lever, the switch post moves forward and "makes" the circuit, actuating the lamp.
Often, the brake lever, the small lever, or the switch itself are misaligned after 46 years, and the small lever doesn't fully depress the switch, and your brake light stays on...:deal
I, stuck a teeny little crutch tip, [visible in photo] on the actuator lever to make up the misalignment. It worked for a while, until I sucked it up and dismantled the whole shebang and set everything up right. You can see the elongated holes for adjustamento...
I'll guarantee you that switch is filled with goopy,tarry,oily grit and grime. Take it off and soak it electrical contact cleaner for a day. If it's ON, then it still works. Or you buy a new one from Vech, it was pretty cheap.

PS, Your headlight ears are upside down

Huh, that's what you get for leaving it in pieces for 8 years...

Thanks for the info on the brake switch. I'll have to check it out. I know the switch moves freely but maybe something else is misaligned.

datchew 03-09-2011 04:23 PM

Looks great and I appreciate the good story and historical background.
I hope it runs great and you can pass it to the next generation.

bmwhacker 03-09-2011 04:34 PM

That is great to see an old veteran back on the road. Particularly sweet that you've left the original "patina" live! I'm taking possession of an old 1954 Zundapp soon and hope to do the same. Great job and a great story.:thumb

65bmwr50 03-11-2011 05:04 AM

Thanks danedg!
 
Brake lite was way out of adjustment, now fixed and the ears are flipped. I'm going to go for a ride on the Suzuki and come back and work on her, see if I can get it running better.

Mista Vern 03-11-2011 08:55 AM

Congrats and many happy miles ahead to you!

danedg 03-11-2011 09:08 AM

R50,
A more detailed description of the "falling flat on it's face" problem, might help to pinpoint where you can start looking for the fix....
Let us know:freaky

65bmwr50 03-11-2011 09:32 AM

More details
 
I can get it to idle nice and smooth. When I try to increase the throttle on it it will stumble and cough and then it will start to rev. At that point it will rev fairly easily and smoothly. Now when I let the clutch out it will start rolling then it just dies. I pull in the clutch and goose it and it is back to coughing and popping. I also need to add that I have done nothing when it comes to timing or tuning the carbs so far.

danedg 03-11-2011 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65bmwr50 (Post 15392250)
I can get it to idle nice and smooth. When I try to increase the throttle on it it will stumble and cough and then it will start to rev. At that point it will rev fairly easily and smoothly. Now when I let the clutch out it will start rolling then it just dies. I pull in the clutch and goose it and it is back to coughing and popping. I also need to add that I have done nothing when it comes to timing or tuning the carbs so far.

Nothing is good, and how it should be. Adjustments should be made one at a time. Take it for a ride, and then make another one. If you try adjusting 8 things at once, you'll never figure out which part is screwin' up the works. Don't ask me how I know this!:lol3

Let's start by determining that your throttle cables are connected, and connected correctly. It's possible that you're not lifting a carb slide. Maybe late, maybe not at all...it would start and idle, but cough and die under load. Which is what you described.
Pull the intake tubes off. Check to see that the slides in the carbs are both lifting at the same time, when you twist ze throttle.
Set two swizzle sticks, [mini tongue depressors] under each slide. Gently engage the throttle, the 2 sticks should start moving at the same time. There's an adjustment if they don't.
Make sure the slides are returning to their bottom position as well...

These bikes are well made and dead simple. If something ain't right, there are only a few things that can go wrong. Start with the obvious.:evil

danedg 03-11-2011 11:00 AM

http://danedgcomb.smugmug.com/Motorc...92_so4rj-M.jpg

lemieuxmc 03-11-2011 11:09 AM

It might be running OK on the idle jet, but you have a plugged pilot jet, then its OK on the slide/needle/main jet.

Pluck a strand out of your wire brush and clean the orifices with that and some spray cleaner.


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