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Heloguy1976 07-06-2011 10:45 AM

GPS POINTS MILITARY ROADS (SUSA, ITALY into FRANCE)
 
A friend and I will be traveling from Susa Italy on the old military roads between Italy and France. Was wondering if anyone had some GPS tracks they could send our way or even any info on what is a must to see and what can be skipped. We have heard Susa Italy is a great little town with all kinds of info and they go out of there way to help you plan the passes. We will be traveling on 1200 GSA's and have 10 - 15 days of travel time. We are both very seasoned off-road riders. Any information would be awesome. We have found lots on the net but always better from people that have done it. Thanks

fluff34567 07-10-2011 11:36 PM

hi,
we are also going end of july and have spoken with the bardonecchia commune to clarify exactly which roads are opena nd which are not because i have found a lot of mixed info.

remember that nearly every military road that goes from italy to france are closed

you also may have heard the story of the guys that were caught on a closed road, the police took their bikes away with a helicopter and the guys had to walk back to the village for several hours and pay a huge fine..... :huh:eek1:eek1

make 100% sure the roads you are going on are allowed as the signs are not always there to say the roads are closed - you just have to know!!

best to phone the commune or tourist info and they will give you the correct info - it will be safer!!

Yeti.at 08-10-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Heloguy1976 (Post 16331560)
A friend and I will be traveling from Susa Italy on the old military roads between Italy and France. ...

i already drove some of these roads. of some i stored the gps-coordinates. if you need it, let me know it.

Viktor_ex 01-16-2012 12:32 AM

in 2011 we go on any military ways (ligurien, etc.), no problem
look video http://www.youtube.com/user/quadprof.../4/MCbrnWH4GBk

i recomend this book, is every year actualized
http://alpen.bplaced.net/

atreiou 04-16-2013 12:30 AM

Hi, I have various offroad gps track around Bardonecchia, near Susa
You can reach with motorbikes roads at about 3.000 mt of altitude

I will be there on 13 and 14 of april 2014

If I can help you, let me know

DetoX68 05-26-2013 11:47 AM

Check this out. It's in German, but it wil provide you a lot of information.

http://alpenrouten.de/regions.html?region=21

ptr 07-27-2013 07:01 AM

Heloguy1976
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DetoX68 (Post 21496197)
Check this out. It's in German, but it wil provide you a lot of information.

http://alpenrouten.de/regions.html?region=21

seems this the only answer that may help, also with gps-tracks. have a look on

ASSIETTA-KAMM
MAIRA-STURA
VARAITA-MAIRA
LGKS (Nord)
LGKS (Sued)

view from colle delle finestre to susa:
http://abload.de/img/bild152d5jxy.jpg

fluff34567 08-03-2013 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atreiou (Post 21196720)
Hi, I have various offroad gps track around Bardonecchia, near Susa
You can reach with motorbikes roads at about 3.000 mt of altitude

I will be there on 13 and 14 of april 2014

If I can help you, let me know

You know that in April all
the dirt roads will be closed, you can only travel the roads around end of july- mid August.




Quote:

Originally Posted by ptr (Post 21964375)
seems this the only answer that may help, also with gps-tracks. have a look on

ASSIETTA-KAMM
MAIRA-STURA
VARAITA-MAIRA
LGKS (Nord)
LGKS (Sued)

view from colle delle finestre to susa:
http://abload.de/img/bild152d5jxy.jpg

The susa and bardo communes are very helpful as are the police who advise routes and have in the padt given us special permission to ride "closed" routes.

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K44rll 08-03-2013 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluff34567 (Post 22017822)
You know that in April all
the dirt roads will be closed, you can only travel the roads around end of july- mid August.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6175/6...9fa76692_z.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4084/4...87687985_b.jpg

Karl

fluff34567 08-04-2013 02:25 PM

Im not telepathic so you need to write something to explain your point. :)

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K44rll 08-04-2013 03:15 PM

Just showing some examples of the dirt road opening dates as you rightly posted are not always open :thumb:

Karl

fluff34567 08-06-2013 06:25 AM

Got you :thumbup: in april I would still be thinking of snow also. The passes wont be passable :D

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AriWiedaetschi 12-22-2013 08:31 AM

I made Journeys in this Area every Year.
Last Year we have some problems with closed Roads. The wintersnow was not gone in June.
All the highmountain roads are not passabel.
Another obstacle is the tour de france.

You wont belive, how many roads are closed when the Tour de France have to pass.

Here my GPS routs from 2012
The links opens a google like map
and you can export the route in the type you need.





Vogesen Ca. 400 km

http://www.motoplaner.de/#49.48387,6...253,6.82202&&1



Teil 2 Vogesen bis Aostatal 370km

http://www.motoplaner.de/#47.63981,6...1769,7.2351&&1



Teil 3 Aoste bis vor Briancon /Cesano Torinese 300

eventuel kleine Offroad Fahrt um den Lac Mont Cenis als Vorbereitung für den Finestre
Finestre Richtung Cesano Torinese ab Susa umfahrbar!
Ende Finestre auf Assietta Kammstraße Richtung Sestriere Umfahrung parallel möglich siehe Karte

http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.735,7.3...305,6.79375&&0


Teil 4

Vor Briancon muss nun das Wetter entscheiden ob über den Col d Agnel Maira Vrata Stura Kammstraßen oder eher Rückmarsch Richtung Grenobel
Alternativ wären noch die Runde Col Agnel- Col di Sampeyre (Maira Stura Asphalt mit schönen Überhängen) Borgo- Col de la Lombarde- Isola Col dela Bonette Col de Vars denkbar.

Achtung!! Die Maira Runde führt vermutlich zum Verzicht auf Teil 6 bei der Rückreise, da nur 8 Tage zur Verfügung stehen.

Teil 4 I Varaita Maira Stura

Teil 4 II Richtung Westen 340 km
http://www.motoplaner.de/#44.95305,6...039,5.37128&&0



Teil 5 Vercors Nord 33 abgekürzt und dann nach Grenobel (vermutlich muss ein Teil doppelt gefahren werden vorzugsweise (Grands Goulettes) 360km
Grenobel bis Chambery Runde 32 West (Abstecher Skigebiet östlich Grenoble + Fort du St-Eynard)

http://www.motoplaner.de/#44.75836,5...473,5.91958&&0





Teil 6 Stausee von Roseland
Vorsicht da ist noch der falsche Zielort Flumet drin!!!!!
Schotterpiste über den Cormet des Arches umfahrbar bei schlechtem Wetter über Straße gemäß Tour 28

http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.56472,5...933,6.51623&&1


Teil 7 Aravis Kette Höhenweg geschottert Umfahrung möglich. Runde 27
Start zum Rückweg über die Vogesen oder Autobahn.
Das Jura sollte heute noch durchquert werden



Start in Ugine
bis Colle L Arpettaz Asphalt dann Schotter
Umgehung über Hauteville Richtung Fulmet möglich.
Teil 7 I Schotter ca 40 km

http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.74914,6...7208,6.4652&&0


Teil 7 I Straße
http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.74914,6...7208,6.4652&&0

Teil 7 II Col Aravis bis Bussang 340km
http://www.motoplaner.de/#45.87211,6...589,6.85565&&1

AriWiedaetschi 12-22-2013 08:42 AM

Sorry i have forgotten the Pics for your motivation :-)
 
I will travel in this area first week in July


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