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CrazyLegs 12-11-2011 06:51 PM

Rekluse EXP
 
Hey has anybody used the new EXP clutch on a 990? I have a z-start pro, but see that they have a new EXP for the LC8.

xcflyn 12-11-2011 09:05 PM

I know this does not answer your question. But I have one on order for my 450. I have been on the fence about this for years. Auto clutch - I aint riding no Honda mini 50 :rofl . But last summer I hooked up with 3 guys riding the San Juan's. We were at a big rock climb and I watched one of the guys take a bad line : hit two near stops and manage to walk up. At the top I asked how the heck he pulled it off :confused Auto Clutch. All 3 guys had them. At that time I was looking into a Dyna ring. One of the guys had one and happened to know the manufacturer, this is what he told me ( I cant swear it was accurate-just what he said) " Dyna ring is no longer being made, Rekluse filed suit because they had the rights to it" thus it is the EXP. This is supposed to be the cats meow for less then the z-start ? Best part is, its tunable with simple adjusters. I am kinda excited to try it !

Pete640 12-12-2011 02:46 AM

Who's selling them for the 950/990? The write up sounds very good..

henryroten 12-12-2011 05:34 AM

Due out in January
 
I just spoke with Rekluse a few days ago and the new EXP for the 990 (not the Core EXP but a new design for the 950/990) is due out in January 2012. Retails for $629.00 and uses a special slave cylinder to adjust the plate gap. Part number RMS 6131. Rekluse told me that it works much better than the Z-Start Pro and that I needed to order one now to get one of the first produced. I guess that they already have a list started. Very tempting.

xcflyn 12-12-2011 07:37 AM

Yikes thats pricy still. I paid $379 for the exp for my 450. Clearly less parts needed then the 990 version. Rocky Mountain had them for my 450 at a great price,but BRP being the fantastic company they are, matched their price (I was purchasing other items from them at the same time :evil)

Perstockholm 12-12-2011 10:27 AM

I also just got the Z-Start Pro, not even installed yet, when I found they replaced it with the EXP, also very interested in to understand what would be better with the new version. Driving handling, or just installation?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Apple Jam 12-13-2011 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryroten (Post 17498277)
I just spoke with Rekluse a few days ago and the new EXP for the 990 (not the Core EXP but a new design for the 950/990) is due out in January 2012. Retails for $629.00 and uses a special slave cylinder to adjust the plate gap. Part number RMS 6131. Rekluse told me that it works much better than the Z-Start Pro and that I needed to order one now to get one of the first produced. I guess that they already have a list started. Very tempting.

I called Rekluse also, a week or so ago, I was very curious.
Still in final Beta he told me...., he also told me Jan 2012 for shipping.
Their new slave is adjustable in the field with an allen wrench from full auto to full clutch use, so you can bump start even !!

cjracer 12-13-2011 11:41 AM

Not on a 990.... But it's awesome on a 950.... :evil

KTMforget 12-13-2011 11:59 AM

All the information we have on them can be found here:

http://www.blackdogadvbikes.com/blac.../275-2095.html

Rekluse is supposed to send us one this month to test. They should be available in January or February. We will do a full write up on it once we receive it and install it. Sounds like it will be much better than the z-Start pro I have in my Super Enduro.

sonoran 12-13-2011 01:50 PM

OK I'm confused.. what is the difference between the EXP and Core EXP clutches?

PowerCell 12-13-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonoran (Post 17509211)
OK I'm confused.. what is the difference between the EXP and Core EXP clutches?

The Core has balls...


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MotoTex 12-14-2011 12:05 PM

The snatchy clutch when the engine is cold symptom (that continues to evade isolation or cure) has me motivated to do something like this just to avoid the embarrassment and aggravation when trying to ride from a stop before the magic moment when the clutch finally decides to operate smoothly again.

:lurk

idahojoe 12-14-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotoTex (Post 17515817)
The snatchy clutch when the engine is cold symptom (that continues to evade isolation or cure) has me motivated to do something like this just to avoid the embarrassment and aggravation when trying to ride from a stop before the magic moment when the clutch finally decides to operate smoothly again.

:lurk

Motivation is rerwarded the moment the deep down roar comes rising to the surface as the gear too tall transmission pulls the rear wheel up to speed via the most liquideous clutch feed imaginable.:D

xcflyn 12-14-2011 09:09 PM

Rekluse does have some videos on their site of the EXP in the thumpers :thumb . Received mine for my 450 today. Next non ridable day I may get it installed and see how it performs. I never had one in any bike so it should be interesting. I am really thinking it may be the ticket for 990 owners who dont like the "snatchy" throttle ? I run a 15-42 and think with a EXP I would go back to the 16-42. I really like the tall gearing now, but when I do run it on the road I miss that extra tooth up front.

xcflyn 12-27-2011 06:08 PM

re-hashing a dying thread here. I did finally install the exp into my 450. Why did it take so long, well actually I was tempted to return it. Two things I didnt like about it. #1. 40 years of riding with a conventional clutch and I done pretty good to this point, why cheat ? #2 was that I was very nervous about the ability to compression brake. Not sure what excuse to use here- going to go with the fact Im fairly light 150lbs. :1drink - but I have a harder time descending steep stuff then I do climbing. I relay heavy on the motor keeping me slow more then my rear brake.
Last night I thought I may as well install it and go ride one of what the locals from the area we are visiting consider one of gnarly rides. My theory is if gonna test it-TEST IT ! I know this is not saying how he EXP will be in our big bikes, but it will tell you about the performance of Rekluse's new product.
First off- install is very easy,on my 450 I lay it on its side to work on it-dont even need to drain oil when pulling the cover.
A negative is that when checking free play you have to pull the cover to adjust it, and it is critical that you get it right so your EXP goes to full lock. I got lucky, the # of turns on the throw out that Rekluse suggested, put mine on target. I am going to play with it a little and set it up for a harder engagement, they give you springs to install if you want to play.
Performance was better then I expected. It actually is not the "crutch" I thought it would be. My muscle memory still kicks in and I tend to feather the clutch times when I dont need to anymore. I am kind of a when it doubt- ride it balls out, so I try not to get really slow unless its single track or just really technical picking your way through stuff. There was a little of that today and I purposely kept my finger off the clutch- that is harder to do then it sounds, your trusting the mechanism to do what you normally have had to do. The EXP performed as it was supposed to and it did about what I would have done working the lever. I guess one of the better features of this is the ability to dog the bike in higher gear-its probably harder on the friction plates then it should be, but on long loose climbs it is nice to twist up and pull on some speed when you hit a good section on a climb. Engagement is very smooth-too smooth I feel, but that is adjustable :evil
Now my fear of lacking compression braking is removed-pretty much- I really put this to the test because I wanted to know what I was in for when I get into scary stuff. I say pretty much removed my fears, not 100%. you really got to get the bike down to an idle to get it to unlock, if it has any engagement it is going to pick up engine RPM and engage harder. Still I found that when doing 2nd and 3rd gear descents on rocky ground, if I used my brakes and got the bike and motor speed down I could get it to completely unlock-the only way to get your compression braking back is to rev the motor, in that case you have to be prepared, if you picked up a lot of speed soon as the clutch engages you may be skidding. I found to just rev to the point you plan to increase your speed : roll on a little heavy then go back to braking.
So all in all I like it. Believe it or not,the best part for me the lack of having to find neutral when jumping off to lock and unlock gates, it was nice to leave it in gear, open a gate, roll a little throttle (doesn't matter what side of the bike you are on-its in gear) walk the bike through with some motor assist,go back lock gate, twist it up and ride away.
I guess the best way to put it for those here on OC- I would certainly consider it for my 990. The one thing I thought I would do that I wont, is go back to stock gearing. I run 15-45 (not the 15-42 I thought before- thats if memory serves me correct) and to I still want my "R"s up when descending to keep me slow,taller gearing will mean the motor will be allowed to go to idle more often and chance it unlocking. The other thing the big bike has is gobs of power, so the ability to dog it is actually pretty good, it pulls out of the dog house pretty good for a motor that likes being in the 3-4000 rpm range. So for me its a better tool on the thumper then it would be on the twin. Hope this is good information- takes me a freaking hour to type this much:lol3 .


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