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tahoeacr 02-03-2012 07:46 PM

New air box
 
Just wanted to show you guys a new air filtration set-up. Seems like everyone calls them airboxes but there is no "box" to it. This came about at the right time for me because I'm sick of my K&N sucking dirt.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...aircleaner.jpg
Two 1/4 turn fasteners to remove it.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ircleaner2.jpg
Glove box clearance
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/P1201012.jpg
fitment around throttle bodies. All the left over silicone is from attemps to seal my old set-up when the dirt was actually coming thru the K&N.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/P1201017.jpg
Nice X-ring used for seal
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/P1201027.jpg
filter has a cage inside.
Temp sensor and case breather bolt on to bottom plate

Here is the place making them. The owner is also a SuperDuke guy.

http://www.teamcprfab.com/

LAYNFRM 02-03-2012 08:13 PM

hell yeah! let us know how it seals and works!

tahoeacr 02-03-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LAYNFRM (Post 17905406)
hell yeah! let us know how it seals and works!

Seals great. Took those pics about three weeks ago. Had to make sure it was good stuff before I pass it on to the Crush.
10+hp on the SD. I'll head to the dyno as soon as I can.

LAYNFRM 02-03-2012 08:38 PM

awesome. any idea on pricing? didn't see it on their site.

tahoeacr 02-03-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LAYNFRM (Post 17905580)
awesome. any idea on pricing? didn't see it on their site.

$299. So we have our choices of BMC drop in for $100, DNA drop in $140, Moto Hooligan at $359, or DNA MKIII at $700:eek1. This one(not sure what he is going to call it) has more filter media than MH or DNA with lower cost.

My previous filters.
First insulate stock box with drop in DNA. 3 to 4 ft lbs gain. Snorkel prooved to be a restriction on the dyno
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../DSC007222.jpg
Next was Mars box. MH took this and added the raised roof.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/P1180499.jpg
Next went to a taller K&N and made a carbon fiber raised roof.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/P6260797.jpg

So now I'm sticking with the foam and thinking about NACA ducts to bring more air in.

Kenbike 02-04-2012 12:09 AM

I really like your new filter! Report your dyno findings. Have you been thinking of the carbon throttle body stacks being developed on the SD site?

Spark01 02-04-2012 03:44 AM

nice setup and the price is beter than the competitors with a open airbox.
I'm also curious how this setup will perform

fluff34567 02-04-2012 08:25 AM

NACA ducts only work at high airspeeds, any increase in air pressure would be absolute minimal. i assume its air pressure you would like to increase? but then you would need to seal the airbox area to maintain any ( i suspect zero) pressure increase.

Johnf3 02-04-2012 08:44 AM

It should be oiled for off road use, right? Never seen a dry off road foam filter for a motorcycle.

tahoeacr 02-04-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnf3 (Post 17908092)
It should be oiled for off road use, right? Never seen a dry off road foam filter for a motorcycle.

Yes, it should. I wondered if anyone would catch that. Only put it on for the pics right then. I took my Throttlebodies off first to clean them.


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NACA ducts only work at high airspeeds, any increase in air pressure would be absolute minimal. i assume its air pressure you would like to increase? but then you would need to seal the airbox area to maintain any ( i suspect zero) pressure increase.
The bottom of the airbox area is sealed all the way up to the front above the radiator. The stock splash guards are removed and all wiring tied up out of the way. I recommend that on any Adventure. The heat soak from the engine is rediculous. On a 65 degree ambient temp day I could easily record 160+ temps in the stock airbox. With everything sealed they stay within 6-8 degrees above ambient. Even though I ride at high airspeeds:lol3, the NACA ducts would just be a way of bringing in more air and look better than a big hole somewhere. Before I go cutting anything up I will do some dyno pulls with the glove box off to make sure the gains would be worth the effort.

Dusty 02-04-2012 11:44 AM

Nice filter setup..

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The stock splash guards are removed and all wiring tied up out of the way. I recommend that on any Adventure.
I was going to ask about that, so thanks. Got mine apart now picking the rocks out of the radiator and was looking at those thinking more cooler air...hmm, so i am going to ditch the guards also.

I also tried a after market serviceable air filter and noticed dust on the insides of my TBs and around the perimeter of the filter on the hard gasket that is supposed to seal. Called for a refund after only a few rides, not what i want for a bike that is in the dirt.

Johnf3 02-04-2012 06:13 PM

If they had a fitment for a 950, I would be havin' one of those.

tahoeacr 02-04-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnf3 (Post 17911246)
If they had a fitment for a 950, I would be havin' one of those.

Probably the same thing. Both bikes use the same rubber sleeve in the airbox so the carbs and throttlebodies must have the same O.D. Call them and see. Maybe you could be the first fitment.

cjracer 02-04-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tahoeacr (Post 17912363)
Probably the same thing. Both bikes use the same rubber sleeve in the airbox so the carbs and throttlebodies must have the same O.D. Call them and see. Maybe you could be the first fitment.

990 and 950 are 2 differant sizes and setups. :D

tahoeacr 02-04-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cjracer (Post 17912391)
990 and 950 are 2 differant sizes and setups. :D

Are the carbs at a different offset than TB's? Do you know then if the SE is the same as the 950 Adv?
BTW, got a couple of pics of you on the Rubicon I need to post somewhere:evil.


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