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peteFoulkes 04-07-2012 03:00 PM

Round the world on a DR-z400
 
It's finally happening....The end of a very hectic few months is in sight and on Friday of next week, a friend and I leave the UK on two DRz 400's to ride around the world. We’re both 28 and both from London. We will firstly cross the water over to France, ride all the way through Europe, over the Ukraine, in to Russia, Mongolia and then consider taking on the Road of Bones.
Once we've made it that far, we will fly the bikes over to Alaska where we will begin the second part of the trip and ride all the way down to Argentina.
Here is the route:

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...20post/Map.jpg

And here is the story behind the bikes:
Both Suzuki DRz 400 S models. One 2003, the other 2004. Both bikes around the 4000 miles mark. The 2003 model bought for £1600 needed a little more work than the 2004 moodel which came in at £2600 but we're fairly confident that both bikes should be ready to go by no later than the lucky Friday 13th April.
The past few months have involved some serious workshop time. Here is what happened:

Bearing replacement on the 2003 model:
I struggled to get any strong opinions on which bearings to use so we ended up using All Ball Bearings supplied by Wemoto. Front wheel, rear wheel, swing Arm & linkage bearings were all replaced. Not all of them necessarily needed replacing but for peace of mind, I figured it would be nice to complete the first few miles of the 25,000 we're about to cover knowing that most of the consumables were brand new. With the assistance of a paint stripper gun, the removal and application of new bearings was relatively straight forward.
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...intstipper.jpg

We also packed out all of the new bearings with BelRay waterpoof grease. This stuff is apparantly used in underwater pumps so no doubt it can handle a few Mongolian puddles.
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...ost/belray.jpg

Not only are we doing this trip for the ride of a lifetime but we are also aiming to raise as much money and awareness for Cancer Reserach. Given the nature of our trip we have been lucky enough to gain the support from a number of companies who have supplied us with either free or reduced after-market parts. Here is a few additions we made to the stock setup:
Barkbuster lever protection:

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...rkbusters2.png

Ad-Tek Sump guard:
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...kSumpguard.jpg

Bill Mayor custom Seat. She sure is a wide one but is so comfortable:

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...Customseat.jpg

Front caliper pin replacement for ease of future removal

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...aliperpins.jpg

DRC wide pegs

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...0post/Pegs.jpg

Getting there...

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...ngprogress.jpg

Yoshi rs2 pipe to scare off the bears.
ktech upgraded springs
Blocked off the pair valve (not sure if this is present on U.S bikes anyway.)
Eibach front spring upgrade
CFC engine protection
Wolfman luggage racks, welded to Suzuki top rack for re-inforcemnet.

Rear tail tidy:

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...artailtidy.jpg

We have a custom dash in the making. More details to follow on this in the next post once its completely finished.

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...customdash.jpg


Still lots more updates to come including the fitting of the beasty 28 litre safari tank!
Be sure to stay tuned for the ride reports and stories from the road...
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...finalimage.jpg

Yellow Rider 04-07-2012 03:41 PM

Definitely green with envy! Hope you have a safe trip. Looking forward to the RR. :D

UK Jimbo 04-07-2012 03:54 PM

*clicks subscribe*

All the best for the ride, I think you definitely chose the right bikes, will be great to see how they get on.

woodly1069 04-07-2012 04:15 PM

Cool! Glad I found this link, thanks for the redirect!:D

One Less Harley 04-07-2012 06:43 PM

:clap:earGood luck on your trip, the DRZ is a good little bike for a good adventure ride. I modified my extensively for the Trans America Trail. Maybe too late to mention this but I hope you added some reinforcement to your rear sub frame, as it's weak Al and quite flexy. I tied the wolfman rack into the mainframe, link below if interested.

Aces 6 04-07-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One Less Harley (Post 18403927)
:clap:earGood luck on your trip, the DRZ is a good little bike for a good adventure ride. I modified my extensively for the Trans America Trail. Maybe too late to mention this but I hope you added some reinforcement to your rear sub frame, as it's weak Al and quite flexy. I tied the wolfman rack into the mainframe, link below if interested.

Subscribed!! Good luck

Adv Grifter 04-07-2012 07:01 PM

Some nice Swag there mate. You'll love the Mayer seat ... the Mayer family have a long history in MC saddle making going back 30 years or more. Rocky is one of the best. I've been to his shop in Ojai, CA. That seat will be a life saver. That's a 12 hour riding day seat. :clap

ALL BALLS would not have been my 1st choice for bearings. Yes, they are very inexpensive. Now why is that? :D They are roundly condemned by some in the off road world. Most get one season out of these bearings. Not good.

They are low end Chinese made bearings that have been repackaged by a middle man/marketer. Fact is ...many bearings today are made in China ... even Japanese companies like Koyo out source to China. But the quality range is wide ... and apparently ALL BALLS tend to be at a low level. You can buy very high quality Made In China bearings ... ALL BALLS are not them! :eek1

I would research which bearings on your DRZ's tend to wear out and take spares. A nice cleaning and light re-grease at tire changes or flats always helps ... but don't CRAM the bearings full of grease or they will get HOT and seize. Ask your Mclaren guy which bearings to buy. He should know.
(I'd get OEM (Koyo) Suzuki ... they fit and they last)

Don't forget your linkage bearings. Clean and re-grease before Mongolia and after. By the time the linkage is squeaking ... too late! Mongolian puddles for 2000 miles will likely be more a problem for link bearings than wheel bearings. Check/grease head bearings at about 10K miles. (upper and lower)

Use Copper grease on brake caliper slide pins ... and a dab of Blue Loc-Tite on main caliper holding bolts. With mud jammed brakes, pads can get ground away very quickly ... with no braking! Spare pads or keep clean (if possible) :evil

Yoshi pipes are L O U D !! May bring unwanted attention? ... but that's up to you guys. Very well made, high quality and light weight race pipes. Bit loud for me. (Got ear plugs? :ear)

Dakar style Dash ....
I know these Dakar Rally dashes are very hip in London and among the Adventure Cognoscenti ... but think about what will happen if you fall, hit a rut, bury the bike and STOP suddenly in mud or sand and get flung forward ... and your chest, arms or legs is forced through that solid Aluminum frame?

The Dakar Dash is a beautiful thing ... but IMHO as a former desert/Enduro racer ... not safe. You will crash and if your body goes through that dash it's gonna hurt. Been there, seen it happen.

Some may say; "Oi, all the Dakar guys use them!!" yea, true, and how many major Dakar champions are DEAD? and how many others have died? Highest death rate of ANY racing series. How many were impaled on metal hardware I could not say ... but I know it has happened.

But all this is your choice.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...enR1200GSA.jpg
Ouch!

Should be an Epic trip for a worth while cause. Maybe you guys can even do some research as to why Cancer rates are so low in places like Mongolia, parts of Africa and Latin America. Diet and lifestyle per chance? :bubba:hmmmmm

Bon Chance!

Hogslayer 04-07-2012 08:21 PM

Sounds like one hell of a trip will try and follow along on this one for sure, wish you guys the best, it should be a great ride and adventure. :evil

docsherlock 04-07-2012 08:37 PM

Should be an Epic trip for a worth while cause. Maybe you guys can even do some research as to why Cancer rates are so low in places like Mongolia, parts of Africa and Latin America. Diet and lifestyle per chance? :bubba:hmmmmm

Bon Chance![/QUOTE]


Less meat, more fruit and veg.
Harder physical life (= more exercise).
Less sugar consumption.

Three possible reasons....

docsherlock 04-07-2012 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=peteFoulkes;18402412]It's finally happening....The end of a very hectic few months is in sight and on Friday of next week, a friend and I leave the UK on two DRz 400's to ride around the world. We’re both 28 and both from London. We will firstly cross the water over to France, ride all the way through Europe, over the Ukraine, in to Russia, Mongolia and then consider taking on the Road of Bones.
Once we've made it that far, we will fly the bikes over to Alaska where we will begin the second part of the trip and ride all the way down to Argentina.
Here is the route:

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...20post/Map.jpg

You comin' home through Africa?

muskeg 04-07-2012 09:56 PM

Very nice start!

hookeniggy 04-08-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter (Post 18404068)
Some nice Swag there mate. You'll love the Mayer seat ... the Mayer family have a long history in MC saddle making going back 30 years or more. Rocky is one of the best. I've been to his shop in Ojai, CA. That seat will be a life saver. That's a 12 hour riding day seat. :clap

ALL BALLS would not have been my 1st choice for bearings. Yes, they are very inexpensive. Now why is that? :D They are roundly condemned by some in the off road world. Most get one season out of these bearings. Not good.

They are low end Chinese made bearings that have been repackaged by a middle man/marketer. Fact is ...many bearings today are made in China ... even Japanese companies like Koyo out source to China. But the quality range is wide ... and apparently ALL BALLS tend to be at a low level. You can buy very high quality Made In China bearings ... ALL BALLS are not them! :eek1

I would research which bearings on your DRZ's tend to wear out and take spares. A nice cleaning and light re-grease at tire changes or flats always helps ... but don't CRAM the bearings full of grease or they will get HOT and seize. Ask your Mclaren guy which bearings to buy. He should know.
(I'd get OEM (Koyo) Suzuki ... they fit and they last)

Don't forget your linkage bearings. Clean and re-grease before Mongolia and after. By the time the linkage is squeaking ... too late! Mongolian puddles for 2000 miles will likely be more a problem for link bearings than wheel bearings. Check/grease head bearings at about 10K miles. (upper and lower)

Use Copper grease on brake caliper slide pins ... and a dab of Blue Loc-Tite on main caliper holding bolts. With mud jammed brakes, pads can get ground away very quickly ... with no braking! Spare pads or keep clean (if possible) :evil

Yoshi pipes are L O U D !! May bring unwanted attention? ... but that's up to you guys. Very well made, high quality and light weight race pipes. Bit loud for me. (Got ear plugs? :ear)

Dakar style Dash ....
I know these Dakar Rally dashes are very hip in London and among the Adventure Cognoscenti ... but think about what will happen if you fall, hit a rut, bury the bike and STOP suddenly in mud or sand and get flung forward ... and your chest, arms or legs is forced through that solid Aluminum frame?

The Dakar Dash is a beautiful thing ... but IMHO as a former desert/Enduro racer ... not safe. You will crash and if your body goes through that dash it's gonna hurt. Been there, seen it happen.

Some may say; "Oi, all the Dakar guys use them!!" yea, true, and how many major Dakar champions are DEAD? and how many others have died? Highest death rate of ANY racing series. How many were impaled on metal hardware I could not say ... but I know it has happened.

But all this is your choice.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...enR1200GSA.jpg
Ouch!

Should be an Epic trip for a worth while cause. Maybe you guys can even do some research as to why Cancer rates are so low in places like Mongolia, parts of Africa and Latin America. Diet and lifestyle per chance? :bubba:hmmmmm

Bon Chance!


Agree, dash is way to solid,
leave it at home or construct it so it can brak easy, just good advice, seen many guys get hurt (myself included),:trp:trp

peteFoulkes 04-08-2012 01:19 AM

[QUOTE=docsherlock;18404680]
Quote:

Originally Posted by peteFoulkes (Post 18402412)
It's finally happening....The end of a very hectic few months is in sight and on Friday of next week, a friend and I leave the UK on two DRz 400's to ride around the world. We’re both 28 and both from London. We will firstly cross the water over to France, ride all the way through Europe, over the Ukraine, in to Russia, Mongolia and then consider taking on the Road of Bones.
Once we've made it that far, we will fly the bikes over to Alaska where we will begin the second part of the trip and ride all the way down to Argentina.
Here is the route:

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/...20post/Map.jpg

You comin' home through Africa?

We couldn't think of anything better that that but we will firstly need to see how time and finances are holding up when we make it that far!!! Watch this space!

peteFoulkes 04-08-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter (Post 18404068)
Some nice Swag there mate. You'll love the Mayer seat ... the Mayer family have a long history in MC saddle making going back 30 years or more. Rocky is one of the best. I've been to his shop in Ojai, CA. That seat will be a life saver. That's a 12 hour riding day seat. :clap

ALL BALLS would not have been my 1st choice for bearings. Yes, they are very inexpensive. Now why is that? :D They are roundly condemned by some in the off road world. Most get one season out of these bearings. Not good.

They are low end Chinese made bearings that have been repackaged by a middle man/marketer. Fact is ...many bearings today are made in China ... even Japanese companies like Koyo out source to China. But the quality range is wide ... and apparently ALL BALLS tend to be at a low level. You can buy very high quality Made In China bearings ... ALL BALLS are not them! :eek1

Yoshi pipes are L O U D !! May bring unwanted attention? ... but that's up to you guys. Very well made, high quality and light weight race pipes. Bit loud for me. (Got ear plugs? :ear)

Dakar style Dash ....
The Dakar Dash is a beautiful thing ... but IMHO as a former desert/Enduro racer ... not safe. You will crash and if your body goes through that dash it's gonna hurt. Been there, seen it happen.

But all this is your choice.

Should be an Epic trip for a worth while cause. Maybe you guys can even do some research as to why Cancer rates are so low in places like Mongolia, parts of Africa and Latin America. Diet and lifestyle per chance? :bubba:hmmmmm

Bon Chance!

Hi Grifter
Disappointed to hear your comments about the bearings. We posted a threads on various other forums and All Balls seemed to get a fairly good review. It's too late now to be re-changing them all so we will go with what we have but will definitely consider your comments when it comes to purchasing the spares we will be carrying.

As for the Dakar dash...Yeah, I see your safety concerns. It's been something we have considered but decided to chance it. Fingers crossed we make it round safely. If we deem it too dangerous along the way we can always loose it.

Really pleased with the Bill Mayor. Hopefully we will get the chance to stop in and thank them for their work en route.

Thanks for your input.

Pete-NZ 04-08-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteFoulkes (Post 18405444)
Hi Grifter
Disappointed to hear your comments about the bearings. We posted a threads on various other forums and All Balls seemed to get a fairly good review. It's too late now to be re-changing them all so we will go with what we have but will definitely consider your comments when it comes to purchasing the spares we will be carrying.

If yer want a deep groove ball race that will last get FAG bearings..
the numbers of the bearing will be either 62XX or 63XX..
read the number off the bearing go get a good brand with that number..

how bearing numbers work...
6 = deep groove ball race.
2 or 3 = bearing OD - usaly 2 ODs in each bore size.. a few have 3 sizes "4"
XX = bore size ---- 02=15mm / 03=17mm / 04=20mm / 05=25mm
So a 25mm ID bearing will be either...
6205 ...52mm OD x 25mm ID // 6305 ..62mm OD x 25mm ID // 6405...80mm OD x 25mm ID..


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