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Voltaire 09-28-2012 12:34 PM

Ignitech Ignition
 
I bought one of these to try out on my race bike.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/rednzep/cpu.jpg
Unit mounted under seat.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...rankpickup.jpg
My engineer friend made me an adapter plate and I found a bit of ally to mount the pick up on.
Rotor comes with the kit.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...nzep/coils.jpg
I was going to run twin plugs....might just run a single coil instead.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ep/program.jpg
You can use the stock curve that comes with the unit or make your own, its as easy as uploading a photo on the net.
With the engine running you can alter the curve, adjust the 'soft' rev limiter, read the actual revs....pretty cool.
The curve shown is not the one I am using as I have limited advance to 30 degrees.

The instructions are a bit vague, :dealI found as soon as I started the motor the screen would freeze.....this was due to needing 5000 ohms on the plugs.....easy fix was resistor plugs.:clap

Raced it all last weekend, ran fine.
Would it suit a road bike, yes it would.
Would I ever buy another Boyer....no.

disston 09-28-2012 01:47 PM

It looks like you have that plugged into a laptop maybe. Is that how you program it? I'm thinking this is expensive. Well?

ptr 09-28-2012 01:50 PM

ignitech
 
hi

i agree ... absolutely uncomplicated ... really plug`n play ... and cheapier than original part(s).

btw: which kind of race do you mean ... on a BMW? :wink:

Voltaire 09-28-2012 02:42 PM

Its pre programmed, you only have to configure it to suit the type of motor...1,2,3,4 cylinder, set up base advance ( like doing static).
Would run straight out of box.
Yes, Using a laptop.
Price....I paid $500 NZ for box, rotor, pickup, and two dual plug coils....thats about $400 US.
As a re limiter was going to be $100 us it works out good.
Wiring is straight forward, 12volt pos, earth, wire to coil, wire to pick up.

They have a variety of pick up options so could be used on anything.:clap
The race class is pre 1976 Euro over 500cc, I'm a tail end Charlie but enjoy every minute of it.:freaky

pommie john 09-28-2012 02:53 PM

Can you buy the kit without the coils? I already have a pair of Dyna dual outputs.

Voltaire 09-28-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommie john (Post 19702411)
Can you buy the kit without the coils? I already have a pair of Dyna dual outputs.

Yes, I got mine from the NZ distributor, but you can deal direct.
http://www.ignitech.cz/english/aindex.htm

RGregor 09-29-2012 12:33 AM

Major advantage (besides price) in my eyes is the flexibility regarding triggering.
I wanted it as a replacement for my Silent-Hektik and thus keep triggering mechanism and (inductive) pickup.
Sent them a picture of the 5 wing rotor and they made a special configuration file for me.
Worked right out of the box.

The Ignitech is used quite often here for beemers, a guy started the whole affair ~2 years ago by adapting it to his bike and documenting each step in the 2-ventiler forum.
In the meantime he's got the Ignitech Injection running in his two beemers.
Completely legal (TUEV) which is quite an affair in Germany.

I don't have the ignition running in the bike yet, but built a primitive test stand to run it up to 4000 rpm and check advance curve and all other parameters with the stroboscope light.
Looks very good up to now, the ignition does exactly what I had programmed.

Good message for PJ: it automatically detects needed dwell time of the coils (checked that with a Honda Fireblade coil and a BMW 4V coil) and triggers coil accordingly.

Ignitech does not provide a special mounting kit for the BMW alternator, but this guy here sells them:
http://www.parts4motos.de/ignitech.html

wirewrkr 09-29-2012 09:40 AM

So.....where's the alternator going to be?
I know Voltaire isn't running one because it's a racer, but ................

RGregor 09-29-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wirewrkr (Post 19707049)
So.....where's the alternator going to be?
I know Voltaire isn't running one because it's a racer, but ................

The alternator stays where it is, the pickup will be mounted on the alternator. I understood they are working on a new version.
http://2-ventiler.de/vbboard/showthr...light=ignitech
I didn't follow that thread as I don't need this solution.

adrenal 09-29-2012 06:10 PM

So, just how easy is it to program with you're own curve?

Voltaire 09-29-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrenal (Post 19709482)
So, just how easy is it to program with you're own curve?

The program starts up.
There is a standard curve.
You create a new file, save it.
drag the curve around with your mouse.
Save
Then upload to unit.
Hit verify to read and there it is.
Start the motor and watch the engine revs map across the curve.
If you don't like it make another file and start again.
If you can upload a photo onto the net you can do it.:D

supershaft 09-29-2012 07:02 PM

So you can change the rpm range too? Strange but on many an electronic 'adjustable' curve, you can't.

RGregor 09-29-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supershaft (Post 19709842)
So you can change the rpm range too? Strange but on many an electronic 'adjustable' curve, you can't.

A curve consists of ten points (in fact eleven, but the first one is at zero rpm). You can define them by setting rpm and advance wherever you like.
If i.e. your rpm range ends at 8k5 you set the last point there or maybe at 9k and additionally set the rpm limiter.
Between the points the ignition will interpolate.

adrenal 09-30-2012 05:34 PM

tks voltaire.

datchew 10-01-2012 08:01 AM

:lurk


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