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R100RT Mark 10-26-2012 09:08 PM

GS Rear Brake - Oil Contamination?
 
Got to ride a friends “new” 1991 GS this week and found it to be a lot of fun but the rear brake stinks. I am used to less than stellar performance from the (same?) rear brake of my 1993 R100R, but this was much worse. He pulled the wheel today and says it looks like there's some oil on the shoes, but no sign of any oil leaking in from anywhere. I’ll get a look at it this weekend, but wondered if anyone has any idea of how oil might have got on the shoes?
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R100RT Mark 10-28-2012 06:46 PM

OK, took a look at the issue here. Shoes definitely seem to have some oil or grease contamination but there is no sign/evidence of where any oil or grease may have come from. Any thoughts?

boxermoose 10-28-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R100RT Mark (Post 19920627)
OK, took a look at the issue here. Shoes definitely seem to have some oil or grease contamination but there is no sign/evidence of where any oil or grease may have come from. Any thoughts?

IIRC there are a couple o rings where the brake shaft goes thru the final drive housing - I'd kinda assume some gear oil (or mist) has migrated across the shaft and settled out on the inside of the drum. Mixed with brake dust it's look like paste

hardwaregrrl 10-28-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxermoose (Post 19920847)
IIRC there are a couple o rings where the brake shaft goes thru the final drive housing - I'd kinda assume some gear oil (or mist) has migrated across the shaft and settled out on the inside of the drum. Mixed with brake dust it's look like paste

+1 make sure to get the correct sized O rings for the brake cam. no substitutions. Get them from BMW.

R100RT Mark 10-29-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxermoose (Post 19920847)
IIRC there are a couple o rings where the brake shaft goes thru the final drive housing - I'd kinda assume some gear oil (or mist) has migrated across the shaft and settled out on the inside of the drum. Mixed with brake dust it's look like paste

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardwaregrrl (Post 19921071)
+1 make sure to get the correct sized O rings for the brake cam. no substitutions. Get them from BMW.

OK, are we are talking about item #20 [part #35 21 1 457 605] GASKET RING - 12X1 on this diagram? There's only 1# called off. What is the function of the gasket ring #18 and might this be a source of "misting"?

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/...rear_brake.jpg

R100RT Mark 11-01-2012 09:01 PM

Bumping this to see if I can get guidance here on the o-ring/gasket ring that folks advise might be an issue for the GS rear brake shoes being discussed. I'll get to fiddle with this again this weekend and would like to make some progress.

Box'a'bits 11-01-2012 09:22 PM

Are you absolutely sure its oil & not just old & glazed shoes? They dry out, & then are next to useless. DAMHIK

Ghilli 11-02-2012 01:47 AM

I had the same problem on the monolever g/s final drive. Oil was definitely seeping trough the brake cam shaft and onto the drum surface. Even replacing the o-ring with a BMW o-ring, it still leaked. I then took the shaft and machined a new slot for a second o-ring next to the original one.

Worked perfectly until a week later when the leak migrated to the outside, leaking oil down the brake lever onto the rim.:splat.

Maybe it could be the vent valve on the top that is clogged or something, forcing the oil past the o-rings when the temperature and pressure increases.

R100RT Mark 11-02-2012 10:50 AM

All good thoughts. Tech session planned for this weekend. Should get to the bottom of this.

_cy_ 11-02-2012 04:02 PM

first thing to do is drain oil... then carefully refill following instructions in factory manual. degrease all suspected areas of leak very carefully. then keep tabs on any new oil showing.

this should reveal exact source of oil.


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