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webjester 11-12-2012 03:29 PM

Tire Repair???
 
Long story short, my rear Metzeler has a tiny hole right in the middle of the tread. The air holds for a day or two. Brought it to the dealer who said they won't touch it because of liability and wanted to sell me a new one. Now what? So I thought I'll see what you guys have to say.

The tire has about 6k miles on it. I found the hole submerging the wheel but couldn't see anything stuck in there. Tiny bubbles.

option1: Bite the bullet and buy a new one, considering that it has maybe a third of its life left. $200 for a new one divided by 3 is about 66 bucks. If any tire place charges that amount for repair I'll already break even.

option2: Use some spray repair goo to fill the tire and hopefully clog up that tiny hole.

option3: Master Tire Repair kit. Seems to be an awfully big hole to create and then fix it

What do you guys think?

bemiiten 11-12-2012 04:00 PM

Use a string plug and your good to go.

W-Gator 11-12-2012 04:12 PM

Risked choices
 
1) Replace the tire. You know, safety on 2 wheels and all that stuff. You got 2/3 expected life out of the tire. That's pretty good.
2) Repair it with a mushroom plug installed from the inside.
3) Tire sealant. Be selective as some cause corrosion to your rims and leave a real mess at tire change time. Ride-on is reputed to be a good product. http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html

mikegc 11-12-2012 04:23 PM

Tire Repair???
 
I know guys that would plug it and ride until the cords are showing. I'm just the opposite. I don't mess around when it comes to tires. If they look "iffy," they are. As I only get about 6500 to 7500 out of I tire, I wouldn't even think about it.

Mike

erkmania 11-12-2012 04:36 PM

My favorite is this,

http://www.stopngo.com/categories/Tire-Pluggers/

Others prefer the ropes. I carry both, but will only use the rope as the second resort. I have used plugged tires for the duration of their tread a couple of times. I'm always leery initially and I monitor the tire until I am satisfied the repair is OK. It does help that I have TPMS on my bike.

OTOH, your tire is nearly worn out or at least no less than 2/3 whipped. I think you should just replace it.

Boy, I sure wish that I could get 6K out of a rear tire. :shog

Mudcat 11-12-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bemiiten (Post 20029719)
Use a string plug and your good to go.

Yep
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JimVonBaden has a Plugging tutorial on his web site. It is easy, inexpensive and works well :D

fastgpfred 11-12-2012 06:32 PM

What's the current tread depth? If you don't have a tread depth gage they are cheep & available from most auto parts stores. I like this plug... http://www.dynaplug.com/ ... the best for small holes. You should have a kit for road emergencies anyway. I'd probably plug it but order a new one a little early. (the math on what you save)

shu 11-12-2012 07:02 PM

My opionion: Plug it with a sticky string and ride on it. The tire will not push the rope out (ever try to push a string?) There is no catastrophic failure mode here. The worst possible scenario is that the rope would let a little air seep- in other words, you'd be back where you are now.

I've ridden many miles with rope plugged tires, and I can watch their 'health' with my tire pressure monitors. They haven't leaked at all- not a bit. This has given me a lot of confidence in these repairs. When you finally take the tire off you'll find the string has permanently bonded in a mound to the inside of the tire.

I can't say the same for plugs, although lots of people like them. I have seen those fail several times.

.............shu

LaurelPerryOnLand 11-12-2012 07:19 PM

Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?***

Otherwise...proceed with other options.

***Let's think this through to it's illogical conclusion:
1. Tire fails.
****YOU LOSE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD****************************
2. Bike sustains damage during accident.
3. Bike is repaired by your insurance...minus your ($500?) deductible?
4. You sustain some damage (injury) during this accident.
5. Ambulance, hospital charges exceed $45,000 for your 1 week recuperation.
6. Your boss fired you since you were really needed at work.
7. You injure somebody else and they end up suing you for their personal injury and damage to their car.
8. You're convicted of careless operation of a motor vehicle and serve 60 days in jail.
9. Your boss REALLY doesn't want to know about you...particularly now.
10. Since you have no income for 2 months...you miss a couple mortgage payments...bank forecloses on your home.
11. All your credit cards increase your rate since you defaulted on your mortgage payments.
12. Your FICO score drops to the low 500's.
13. It takes you 4 more months (I'm being generous)...in this BAD economy...to find another job comparable to what you had.
14. You exhaust your 2 months of 'savings' and are forced to BORROW from your wife's family...you didn't have the nerve to tell YOUR family.

I think you can see where this COULD be headed...worst case scenario.

Back to my original question:
Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?
HOPE SO...otherwise park it until you have the $66.

PS..."No" I don't sell insurance...nor TIRES.:rofl:rofl

AviatorTroy 11-12-2012 07:25 PM

Mushroom plugs suck. Use a sticky string and it will last longer than the tire will. Some lawyer types will tell you how this is so wrong and all that. It's your prerogative.

Not to be wishy washy but now that I reflect further, if the tire has 6000 miles on it it's probably about shot anyway, so I would maybe lean more toward getting a new one unless you are in the middle of a trip or something.

AviatorTroy 11-12-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurelPerryOnLand (Post 20031294)
Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?***

Otherwise...proceed with other options.

***Let's think this through to it's illogical conclusion:
1. Tire fails.
2. Bike sustains damage during accident.
3. Bike is repaired by your insurance...minus your ($500?) deductible?
4. You sustain some damage (injury) during this accident.
5. Ambulance, hospital charges exceed $45,000 for your 1 week recuperation.
6. Your boss fired you since you were really needed at work.
7. You injure somebody else and they end up suing you for their personal injury and damage to their car.
8. You're convicted of careless operation of a motor vehicle and serve 60 days in jail.
9. Your boss REALLY doesn't want to know about you...particularly now.
10. Since you have no income for 2 months...you miss a couple mortgage payments...bank forecloses on your home.
11. All your credit cards increase your rate since you defaulted on your mortgage payments.
12. Your FICO score drops to the low 500's.
13. It takes you 4 more months (I'm being generous)...in this BAD economy...to find another job comparable to what you had.

I think you can see where this COULD be headed...worst case scenario.

Back to my original question:
Can you afford $66 for peace of mind?
HOPE SO...otherwise park it until you have the $66.

PS..."No" I don't sell insurance.

And dude, if you are really so afraid of life should you even be riding a motorcycle in the first place?..

JimVonBaden 11-12-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudcat (Post 20030735)
Yep
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JimVonBaden has a Plugging tutorial on his web site. It is easy, inexpensive and works well :D


http://www.jimvonbaden.com/Tire_Plugging.html

String plug and ride! So long as it is in the tread, and not a rip, it will work just fine.

On the other hand, if you are the worrying type, just replace it. You will never be happy if you do not.

Jim :brow

erkmania 11-12-2012 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=AviatorTroy;20031339]Mushroom plugs suck. [QUOTE]

Uh, no. They are a more elegant repair than the rope and don't leak when used correctly. I've run a shop where we installed ropes routinely. Ropes will leak because they don't conform to the hole very well because they are stiff, comparitively. They don't seal the bore of the hole every time either. Water can get between the plies as it leaks into the hole from the tread.

The mushroom types are softer and will conform to the hole more successfully. Mushrooms, however, won't work in less regularly shaped hole bores as well as ropes. That's the reason I carry ropes, too.

BTW! I don't think anyone would call you wishy washy. :deal :D

aGremlin 11-12-2012 09:27 PM

Depends on the life left...

Not much, stuff it, replace the tyre.

Worth it? Mushroom plug (properly installed, my dealer did it) tyre comes off, sealed up etc, had no problems for the rest of the tyres life.

KSKLR 11-12-2012 10:48 PM

I have had no problems with the rope plugs in more than ten thousand miles and would not hesitate to use one again if the hole size is appropriate. The last one that I had on my GSA was in Alexandria, LA when I was on a trip and finished up with over 2,000 miles on that trip alone plus several thousand more before changing that tire.

Went to James Bay Quebec with some FJR 1300 Yamaha guys and one of them had three plugs in his rear tire. He went several hundred miles at well over 100 mph with no problems.

Do start off easy and monitor the pressure. I have taken off tires with rope plugs that I installed and the rope from the inside appears to be fused and is not going to come out.

All things being equal I would rather start off on a trip with a fresh set of tires but these are what my experiences have been and for me I have no qualms.


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