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vlhugo 12-26-2012 09:11 PM

seat question
 
I'm looking for feed back about Sargent seat. I have 2007 R 1200 GS and need better seat for my long distance rides.
Thank you

Slippy Chips 12-26-2012 09:23 PM

I've only put about 2k miles on mine so far. It's definitely better than the stock, but that isn't saying much. The stock is horrible and I don't know how I kept it on as long as I did. It would hurt after about an hour of riding. After a day or two of riding all I could think about is how bad my butt hurt.

The Sargent I can go about a half day before it begins to get uncomfortable and it's no where near as bad. It seems to sit a little lower. I think I'll ride it for a while then get a RDL or Mayer made. The whole custom seat process is a hassle when you live out east.

Doc Rich 12-27-2012 04:10 AM

Have a look at what touratech have to offer. I replaced my stock seats with a Kahedo seats - high range so its gives me an extra inch or two higher and isn't so hard on my knees. Am also tall. R

rcliffor 12-27-2012 05:49 AM

Very happy with my Sargent; however, I rarely go on long rides. Most of my trips are less than 4 hours.

StuartV 12-27-2012 09:12 AM

Sargent seats are awesome - if you get them to do a custom seat on the stock seat pan. I've had 2 of these. Their World Sport seats - i.e. the ones they make on their own seat pan - suck. Maybe not as bad as the stock GS seat, but that ain't saying anything. I've had 1 of their World Sport seats.

TuefelHunden 12-27-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slippy Chips (Post 20335347)
I've only put about 2k miles on mine so far. It's definitely better than the stock, but that isn't saying much. The stock is horrible and I don't know how I kept it on as long as I did. It would hurt after about an hour of riding. After a day or two of riding all I could think about is how bad my butt hurt.

The Sargent I can go about a half day before it begins to get uncomfortable and it's no where near as bad. It seems to sit a little lower. I think I'll ride it for a while then get a RDL or Mayer made. The whole custom seat process is a hassle when you live out east.

+1 What he said. Except I'm not sure about the RDL or Mayer. I recently had my stock seat done by Mean City Cycles http://www.meancitycycles.com/ in Maiden, NC near Hickory. So far on a couple short trips it feels great. Real test will have to wait a couple months. It was a double decker of memory foam and I described exactly what I wanted to accomplish. This is how they describe it:
"This modification was developed for the larger rider in mind but light weight riders are loving it also. In this modification we start by reshaping the seat for better comfort then add a 1 inch piece of 10 lb memory foam then we add a 5.5 lb 2 inch memory foam. This gives the seat a super plush feel. This modification keeps the sitting position is a near stock height but we can still move you back, forward or up." I drove up and had it done but you can do it by mail. $150 plus any shipping.

matthangen 12-27-2012 09:28 AM

Thanks for that suggestion Doc, i'm transitioning from a KLR and XRL so the seat doesn't seem to bad but my concern was getting lower when I already wish my knees weren't so high when on the pegs. Another inch higher would be nice so i'll be checking out Kahedo seats.

srpuywa 12-27-2012 09:38 AM

Depends how tall you are - Sargents slide you forward and do not have as much 'wiggle' room as a stock seat. I tried one and gave it back. They are more comfortable than stock, I had one on my ST1300 and thought it was great, not so on the GS. Try a bead rider over your stock seat, I did a SS1000 with one

Emoto 12-27-2012 09:46 AM

I had Rick Mayer re-do the seat on my 1200GS and it is day-after-day comfortable. I recommend his work. No affiliation, just a happy customer.

http://www.rickmayercycle.com/

JimVonBaden 12-27-2012 10:46 AM

I tried every kind of seat and settled on an off the shelf Sargent Low seat for my R1200GS. I put the front high and the back low and loved that seat. Good for 600+ mile days, and it was great for 40K miles for me, and nearly 120K for the friend I later gave it to.

Rick Mayer is as comfortable, but his customer service sucked for me and a few friends, and the leather wears fast.

Jim :brow

spook120 12-27-2012 11:10 AM

Had class two pressure sores from my Sargent after 2800 mile trip. Went to Russell daylong....still not quite the right seat for my rearend. Go figure. Spook

StuartV 12-27-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emoto (Post 20337644)
I had Rick Mayer re-do the seat on my 1200GS and it is day-after-day comfortable. I recommend his work. No affiliation, just a happy customer.

http://www.rickmayercycle.com/

After years of Sargent seats, I opted to have Rick Mayer do the seat on my GS. The reason for trying him instead of sending my stock seat to Sargent was simply that Rick offers ride-in appointements, so I could get my seat done a lot sooner, and his prices are less expensive than Sargent.

When I first arrived at Rick's, I told him that on my Sargent custom seats I always had them done to be exactly the same shape/profile as stock, but with their Atomic Supercell foam and basketweave vinyl. I had 2 sportbike seats done that way and had no problem doing Iron Butt rides on them after that.

But, I told Rick that my GS is my first non-sportbike, so I would defer to his seat judgment. He did the GS seat with basketweave vinyl, but he put a noticeable "dish" in the seat. I had him flatten it out some immediately, and then rode home. I put about 600 miles on the seat and then took it back to him to adjust (which he doesn't charge for). Basically, on the second visit, I had him, essentially, tweak it to be the way I initially described. I.e. make it as flat as possible, with his firmest foam, and still basically the same shape as stock.

I could ride on it all day the way he first did it, and, like that, it was WAAYY better than stock. But, now that he flattened it out and firmed it up some, it is even better. Now, it is totally Iron Butt-capable.

It seems that a lot of aftermarket seat companies "dish" the seats and I really don't know why anybody would want that. I guess if you're only going to ride a few hours at a time, maybe it's good. I mean, the dished shape is definitely more comfortable than any stock seat I've tried, and it *might* even be more comfortable than a flat seat - for a few hours. But, once you've been in the saddle for a few hours, it's really nice to be able to move your butt around. Forward and backwards. Maybe even to one side or the other. And that is when a dished saddle loses its appeal. If I'm going to ride all day, I want to be able to shift forward and sit like that for a while. Then shift way back and sit there. A dished seat really makes a lot of that uncomfortable.

Strong Bad 12-27-2012 01:41 PM

Saddles/seats area all unique to each rider. No one seat will fit all riders. The stock seat on my 07 GSA was painful at best so I ordered a Sargent which showed to be a nicely made product that was only slightly better than a stock seat. After a week of riding I called Sargent and arranged for a full no hassle refund.

Due to his location, I decided to give Bill Mayer a chance (Rick's brother and also taught by their father). I rode over in the morning and his guys placed their custom foam blank on to my seat pan real quick. The seat was mounted on my bike and I sat on the scooter while they marked the foam blank. They then added foam and re-shaped it to fit me specifically. Once re-shaped, the saddle was re-installed and I went for a about a half hour ride in the mountains. I came back and reported that there was still one spot that was giving me a bit of pressure. Bill asked if I had an enlarged prostrate (which I do) and he made a small adjustment and sent me back out to test again. Bingo! The saddle was then covered and finished up.

I strongly suggest having someone that knows what they are doing make your saddle custom fit just for you.

Bill Mayer Saddles travels all over the country to a lot of bike events and will custom make a saddle for you at the event. You might want to try to catch up with them at an event i would give them a call to see their schedule.

http://billmayer-saddles.com/BMS/

Izzy3 12-27-2012 06:52 PM

My Corbin is quite nice but I think it may be a hybrid seat. Meaning I've done an all day ride and been fine, but not back to back days. It is wider than stock so your legs will not reach the ground as well. For about the same money you can get a Russell or Mayer.

Good luck on the search.

matthangen 12-28-2012 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuefelHunden (Post 20337530)
+1 What he said. Except I'm not sure about the RDL or Mayer. I recently had my stock seat done by Mean City Cycles http://www.meancitycycles.com/ in Maiden, NC near Hickory. So far on a couple short trips it feels great. Real test will have to wait a couple months. It was a double decker of memory foam and I described exactly what I wanted to accomplish. This is how they describe it:
"This modification was developed for the larger rider in mind but light weight riders are loving it also. In this modification we start by reshaping the seat for better comfort then add a 1 inch piece of 10 lb memory foam then we add a 5.5 lb 2 inch memory foam. This gives the seat a super plush feel. This modification keeps the sitting position is a near stock height but we can still move you back, forward or up." I drove up and had it done but you can do it by mail. $150 plus any shipping.

TuefelHunded, you got pics of the seat?


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