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Captdan 01-19-2013 04:54 AM

Installing swing arm on r1200 GSA
 
I seem to recall a thread on swing arm instaltion, but I've searched and have not located the exact info I'm looking for. After a nasty drive shaft explosion last Oct I'm nearly ready to bolt the beast back together. It seems there was someone that modified the socket needed to torque the left side bolt in such a fashion that also allows the installer to use an Allen wrench at the same time. The idea was to keep the Allen torque stable as you torqued the nut. Does anyone have any info on the modification of the socket needed for the job? Also, what are the torque specs for the left side swingarm bolt and Allen?

billdonna 01-19-2013 05:51 AM

I think this is it...about halfway down the page in the Hall of wisdom..

http://advwisdom.hogranch.com/Wisdom...er%20tool.html

Captdan 01-19-2013 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billdonna (Post 20524193)
I think this is it...about halfway down the page in the Hall of wisdom..

http://advwisdom.hogranch.com/Wisdom...er%20tool.html

Excellent! That's it. Thanks

kimokk 01-19-2013 08:41 AM

I don't think this tool applies to the '08 model though. :dunno

Captdan 01-19-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimokk (Post 20525463)
I don't think this tool applies to the '08 model though. :dunno




Good point... Any reason why? Is it not a concern when torquing the bolt and Allen ?

DaveyMac 01-19-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captdan (Post 20526903)
Good point... Any reason why? Is it not a concern when torquing the bolt and Allen ?

Because there is no allen pivot bolt & lock nut on 1200, that applies to R1100 & R1150's.

FlyingFinn 01-19-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwm650 (Post 20527188)
Because there is no allen pivot bolt & lock nut on 1200, that applies to R1100 & R1150's.

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...png?v=08102012

Items 7 and 8, parts fiche for 08-09 R1200GSA.
They call it a "pivot pin" but I'd say it qualifies as pivot bolt.

And to the OP, I used an alternate method on installing the left side pivot pin that didn't require any special tools.

I applied medium Loctite on the pin and turned it to the specified torque (7Nm?).
Next let the Loctite cure, marked the pin and the frame with white dots to verify if the pin moves.
Then torqued the lock nut to its specified torque (lotofNm) using a normal unmodified socket.
At the end check the marks on the pin to make sure it didn't turn with the nut. It didn't.

--
Mikko

Captdan 01-20-2013 09:33 AM

Great idea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingFinn (Post 20527711)
http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...png?v=08102012

Items 7 and 8, parts fiche for 08-09 R1200GSA.
They call it a "pivot pin" but I'd say it qualifies as pivot bolt.

And to the OP, I used an alternate method on installing the left side pivot pin that didn't require any special tools.

I applied medium Loctite on the pin and turned it to the specified torque (7Nm?).
Next let the Loctite cure, marked the pin and the frame with white dots to verify if the pin moves.
Then torqued the lock nut to its specified torque (lotofNm) using a normal unmodified socket.
At the end check the marks on the pin to make sure it didn't turn with the nut. It didn't.



--
Mikko

Perfect! Great idea and method. I liked the idea of a custom socket to tighten the bolt and not at the same time tighten the Allen bolt. Your option seems like a good common sense method. Thanks,

mwood7800 01-20-2013 02:13 PM

I told you to make a socket?

Captdan 01-25-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingFinn (Post 20527711)
http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...png?v=08102012

Items 7 and 8, parts fiche for 08-09 R1200GSA.
They call it a "pivot pin" but I'd say it qualifies as pivot bolt.

And to the OP, I used an alternate method on installing the left side pivot pin that didn't require any special tools.

I applied medium Loctite on the pin and turned it to the specified torque (7Nm?).
Next let the Loctite cure, marked the pin and the frame with white dots to verify if the pin moves.
Then torqued the lock nut to its specified torque (lotofNm) using a normal unmodified socket.
At the end check the marks on the pin to make sure it didn't turn with the nut. It didn't.

--
Mikko



I'm curious what med lock tight is. I have used blue and red before.... What would you recommend?

def 01-25-2013 08:10 PM

Captdan,

Did you get the shaft back from Greenbay? If so, how does it look? What did they do?

JimVonBaden 01-25-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captdan (Post 20576949)
I'm curious what med lock tight is. I have used blue and red before.... What would you recommend?

Medium is often referred to as Blue Loctite.

Jim :brow

Captdan 01-28-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden (Post 20577074)
Medium is often referred to as Blue Loctite.

Jim :brow



Thanks, didn't know that.


And yes, I got Greenbay to replace the ujoints. Mine exploded so I bought a used one on eBay and sent it to MSI. The drive shaft looks new and a very fast turn around time! Mitch knows his business. Now if I can just get it back together and not have another explosion I'll be happy :1drink

scooteraug02 01-28-2013 08:12 PM

Is this the tool? Saw this on Ebay Swinging Arm Bearing Tool BMW R1200GS GT CT About $23 with shipping from GB.


http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Swinging-Arm-...3B!!~~60_1.JPG

HoW tool

http://mikep.smugmug.com/photos/96446860-M.jpg

Dan Căta 01-29-2013 04:50 AM

This is good info. I have to change the rubber seal, # 11 in the pic above, on a friend's r1200gsa.

Whenever I have to do such a job, I tighten the adjustable pin to whatever is needed (8Nm in case you use bearings, handfeel for bushings :D), then mark the pin using a black marker and then tighten the locknut to the needed torque. Then I check the pin for movement. It never moves, the mark is in the same position, every time :)

Dan.


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