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cjracer 01-23-2013 02:33 PM

Nuetech Tubliss tire tube system at CJ Designs
 
Limited Time Only!

Nuetech TuBliss SALE at CJ Designs.

20% off http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/about-us...e-tube-system/

Hurry while supplies last!



It's not about going tubeless for the sake of eliminating tubes. It's all about the countless benefits of going TUblissŪ that makes every rider and racer better, faster, and more in control.

http://www.nuetech.com/images/wanna-ride.jpgTUblissŪ is, essentially, a high pressure rim lock and seal that secures the entire tire bead to the rim, completely eliminating the use of a conventional tube. TUblissŪ allows you to run a low tire pressure (as low as 10 psi) which dramatically improves traction; especially important for enduro and baja racing. Since there's no conventional tube, the days of pinched tubes and flats are over! Even if you get a tire puncture, the bead stays seated to the rim.

The 100 psi TUblissŪ inner bladder literally clamps the entire bead and side wall of the tire to the rim, providing full bead lock performance around the full circumference of the rim. The seal is formed against the inside of the tire itself, not the rim, so it holds the tire firmly and makes the sidewalls stay upright and absorb the full impact, unlike bending and deflection you get with conventional tubes. Because of the design, TUblissŪ will even work with the most dented, dinged, or tweaked rim.


http://www.nuetech.com/images/benefits.jpg
http://www.nuetech.com/images/available-sizes.jpgImproved Traction
TUblissŪ secures the bead so securely that it allows a low tire pressure for improved straight line traction without the risk of a pinch flat or tire bead slippage. Because TublissŪ means you can much lower tire pressures, traction is improved which is especially important for Baja and Enduro riders. You have no tubes to be concerned with, so lower pressure with TublissŪ means you'll never pinch a tube! Replace old technology with a stronger, modern and efficient system. Even if you get a tire puncture, the bead stays seated to the rim.

Virtually Flat Proof
TUblissŪ really is virtually flat proof when used with a tire sealant. Sealants can't work on tubes where holes in the rubber stretch and tear. With TUblissŪ, your sealant works directly on the tire where it matters. Plus, the design of TUblissŪ helps keep the tire seated on the bead and the sidewalls more stable, virtually making "flat wobbles" a thing of the past. Riders have reported riding longer and harder, completely unaware that they had a tire puncture.



Weight Savings
TUblissŪ also provides a weight savings of up to 3 pounds per wheel which instantly translates into less rotating weight and increases acceleration. Less unsprung weight allows significant suspension performance gains. Experts say that eliminating a pound of rotating unsprung weight is equivalent to dropping 5 pounds of static weight!

Runs Cooler
Without the weight and friction of a conventional tube installed, tire temperatures are greatly reduced. This also eliminates tire pressure increases during the course of a moto.

Rim Protection
TUbliss protects the rim from dings and dents by holding the tire firmly and making the sidewalls stay upright and absorb the full impact, unlike bending and deflection of conventional tubes.

GSForLife 01-23-2013 03:05 PM

Need a set for ktm 450 exc 2012
 
Hi Craig,

I would love a set please for wheels 21" (1.60) front and 18" (2.15") rear. Please sent me an invoice like usual. Thanks.

cjracer 01-23-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSForLife (Post 20559415)
Hi Craig,

I would love a set please for wheels 21" (1.60) front and 18" (2.15") rear. Please sent me an invoice like usual. Thanks.

Please email me with your shipping info, or place an order through the site. :D

Thanks,
Craig

It'sNotTheBike 01-23-2013 04:00 PM

CJ, I know you have something to sell, but your post omits some possible
scenarios which can actually happen with a Tubliss setup.


When a tire is punctured by a large object which leaves a hole 1/4" or larger
( this can happen; it has happened to me ) NO sealant can keep the tire inflated.
In that scenario you need to use a patch on the inside of the tire and install a tube,
or fill the tire with leaves or brush. Or if you used a mousse you can just keep riding.


When the Tubliss high pressure tube loses its air ( which can happen ) the tire CAN
come unseated from the rim. This can be a safety issue depending on what is happening
when things go wrong, and if the rim doesn't have a safety bead things can
get wobbly in a hurry, just like when a tube loses all its air quickly.


For anyone who is curious about Tubliss, do a search and see what Neduro had
to say about them. If you cannot be bothered to search, Ned likes and uses mousses
and doesn't like Tubliss at all, and has helped numerous people repair their tires
when their Tubliss system failed. This is the truth, and I believe in telling the truth
and letting the chips fall where they may. I guess I am old-fashioned.


.

cjracer 01-23-2013 04:28 PM

I appreciate your feedback. There are inherent risks with all parts put on a motorcycle. There are pros and cons to all aftermarket motorcycle parts based on the needs of the rider. Rider skills and intended use are considerations.

I can't stress enough the importance for everyone to make an informed decision prior to purchasing any aftermarket motorcycle part. :freaky

blaster11 01-25-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It'sNotTheBike (Post 20559805)
CJ, I know you have something to sell, but your post omits some possible
scenarios which can actually happen with a Tubliss setup.


When a tire is punctured by a large object which leaves a hole 1/4" or larger
( this can happen; it has happened to me ) NO sealant can keep the tire inflated.
In that scenario you need to use a patch on the inside of the tire and install a tube,
or fill the tire with leaves or brush. Or if you used a mousse you can just keep riding.


When the Tubliss high pressure tube loses its air ( which can happen ) the tire CAN
come unseated from the rim. This can be a safety issue depending on what is happening
when things go wrong, and if the rim doesn't have a safety bead things can
get wobbly in a hurry, just like when a tube loses all its air quickly.


For anyone who is curious about Tubliss, do a search and see what Neduro had
to say about them. If you cannot be bothered to search, Ned likes and uses mousses
and doesn't like Tubliss at all, and has helped numerous people repair their tires
when their Tubliss system failed. This is the truth, and I believe in telling the truth
and letting the chips fall where they may. I guess I am old-fashioned.


.

Actually you sound like an ass who has a differing opinion...you should start an oil thread!

gastone 01-25-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaster11 (Post 20574467)
Actually you sound like an ass who has a differing opinion...you should start an oil thread!

I was thinking that maybe he is a vendor selling mousses. Not sure wtf the relevance of his post is.

And on topic... CJR, the rear on my bmw xchallenge is 2.5"x18. Any idea when a tubliss system that will work with a 2.5" rear will be introduced. On their website I believe I saw where they said it would be sometime this winter...

TIA.

Garrett.

cjracer 01-25-2013 04:28 PM

Hi Garret.

I'm not 100% sure when/if the newest version will be ready. It would be best to go direct to Nuetech for new product info. The more direct request from customers can help let them know there is still interest.

The 950 SE also uses the 2.5" rear rim. If I recall from a few seasons ago we had some riders run them on those rims, but you need to check the side wall bead thickness of the tire you are running in order for it to seal tight. Not all tires have the same bead thickness.

I think the Tereflex and the 908 RR worked, but don't quote me on that. Nuetech should have more info on that also and what they might recommend.

I have not used this setup on an 2.5" rim so I don't have any personal experience, just going off memory.

Sorry I couldn't be more help at this time. I'll update this as I get more info.

Locker43 01-26-2013 08:42 AM

Have been using this on my SE for about 3 yrs now, 0 failures! From what I've witnessed the failures that do occur can usually be attested to sloppy install with marginal attention to detail Finished the Mexican 1000 with no failures although I did have 1 flat from a huge puncture. Finished the 70 miles with a flat rear just because I was too lazy to plug it on the spot. Let it cool at the end, had a beer, plugged it added air and had another beer, good as new! Great product! Anyone wanting accurate, first hand knowledge feel free to drop me your number.

SpeedyR 01-26-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by It'sNotTheBike (Post 20559805)
CJ, I know you have something to sell, but your post omits some possible
scenarios which can actually happen with a Tubliss setup.


When a tire is punctured by a large object which leaves a hole 1/4" or larger
( this can happen; it has happened to me ) NO sealant can keep the tire inflated.
In that scenario you need to use a patch on the inside of the tire and install a tube,
or fill the tire with leaves or brush. Or if you used a mousse you can just keep riding.


When the Tubliss high pressure tube loses its air ( which can happen ) the tire CAN
come unseated from the rim. This can be a safety issue depending on what is happening
when things go wrong, and if the rim doesn't have a safety bead things can
get wobbly in a hurry, just like when a tube loses all its air quickly.


For anyone who is curious about Tubliss, do a search and see what Neduro had
to say about them. If you cannot be bothered to search, Ned likes and uses mousses
and doesn't like Tubliss at all, and has helped numerous people repair their tires
when their Tubliss system failed. This is the truth, and I believe in telling the truth
and letting the chips fall where they may. I guess I am old-fashioned.


.

as with any tire related items it's always good to research all options and choose what's best for your uses. Might be standard tubes (cheap and light) might be ultra heavy tubes (cheap, heavy, durable), might be mousse (not cheap, doesn't last, heavy, bombproof), tire balls (not cheap, may or may not be heavy, does last, mostly bombproof, nightmare to install without proper tools), or Tubliss (midprice, ultralight, lasts, unit is durable, how durable is your tire?).

I've spent a lot of time with professional racers using all of the above in everything from SX to WEC stuff and it all depends upon what your priorities are. Mousse is great, but at the top level it's one or two races and it's done, it's about $100 a shot, has a shelf life of 6 months (or less if not stored properly) and is heavy. but it's what the top teams run for a lot of races (from outdoor MX to dakar type races).

I run UHD and tubliss in my wheels (18, 19, 20 and 21" wheels in the garage presently). Tubliss is great, most of the issues I see are related to tire choice and how they work. I've never personally seen any failures with the actual tubliss setup but I've heard that it can happen. I'll probably run mousse for my next front wheel tire change on my 950 SE just because I want to try one out, but you have to watch heat, it kills them.

just throwing it out there... :)

cjracer 01-28-2013 06:24 PM

I am currently sold out, but can get more in here for the sale price.

Sale price ENDS this FRI.

Order now if interested.

thanks,
Craig

sonoran 01-28-2013 06:47 PM

Any experience running a 21" front tubliss setup on a 990ADV at highway speeds for extended periods of time?

tbarstow 01-28-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gastone (Post 20574546)
I was thinking that maybe he is a vendor selling mousses. Not sure wtf the relevance of his post is.

And on topic... CJR, the rear on my bmw xchallenge is 2.5"x18. Any idea when a tubliss system that will work with a 2.5" rear will be introduced. On their website I believe I saw where they said it would be sometime this winter...

TIA.

Garrett.

Run a Dunlop 606 in the rear and it will work.

cjracer 01-29-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonoran (Post 20597575)
Any experience running a 21" front tubliss setup on a 990ADV at highway speeds for extended periods of time?

Keep an eye on air pressure and balance the rim as it's a single rim lock. No problem when I tested it years ago, but these are not DOT rated.

You will also need a 1.6" rim for best performance. Stock rim is too wide.

swimmer 02-02-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjracer (Post 20600606)
Keep an eye on air pressure and balance the rim as it's a single rim lock. No problem when I tested it years ago, but these are not DOT rated.

Maybe this already answers my question but, the Tubliss instructions state that their system is for offroad use only. Is this merely a DOT issue or is there some inherent reason these would be dangerous on the street? Can't really see a problem or at least not anymore of a risk then you'd have with a rapid loss of air with the standard tubeless set up. FWIW I'd be running these on a wr250r and speeds aren't going to be much above 75mph.


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