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eakins 02-01-2013 05:42 PM

Fort Collins: what is the closest community/well w/o floride in the water?
 
I want to fill up my 5G with non -florinated water to use as drinking water.
Free is awesome but I'll pay for each gallon of water. FC is all fluoride so filtered water still has it. thanks bill

thump_co 02-01-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eakins (Post 20629738)
I want to fill up my 5G with non -florinated water to use as drinking water.
Free is awesome but I'll pay for each gallon of water. FC is all fluoride so filtered water still has it. thanks bill

This stuff comes from just south of Boulder.
https://www.eldoradosprings.com/inde...on=serviceplan

eakins 02-01-2013 10:48 PM

thanks. i'm looking for tap water from a muni or a well that is fluoride free...and close to me so I can refill easy and fast. cheaper the better. i want to fill my 5 gallon tank w/ that water and when i run low i go back. think free or cheap....25c gallon. doesn't need to be all fancy filtered/yuppy water and such just tap w/ no flouride.

does loveland flouride? how about just laporte etc. what do the breweries do?
if i drink a fat tire or odells is that made with flouride water? who's got a well i can fill with near FC?

flouride has proven over and over to reduce IQ points. i don't want a stupid kid because of simple water. most other munis have stop using flouride... flouride is in rat poison http://www.ehow.com/about_6544969_fl...at-poison.html why do I want to drink that??? there are proven better things for toothpaste and strong teeth - Xylitol http://www.naturepurity.com/holistic/xylitol_faq.html


thanks Bill

dmac1 02-02-2013 05:55 AM

Just buy Eldorado bottled water at King Soopers and save yourself from driving all over looking for good water. It is good water! Or have em deliver it in 5 gallon jugs and install a dispenser.

Another idea....install a R/O water filter in your house from which to get drinking water.

Another chemical you aren't talking about, but may have considered, is chlorine. Thats in probably all municipal water systems. Yum Yum!

Hondo 02-02-2013 08:41 AM

Most reverse osmosis drinking water filtration systems will remove fluoride.

SaharaJp99 02-02-2013 11:07 AM

This is why one should restrict their fluid consumption to strictly whiskey and beer! The alcohol content negates any bad effects from chlorine and floride. I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night:rofl

ironbrewer 02-02-2013 02:35 PM

If you drink beer most is made with muni water. How do I know? I was a commercial brewer for 12 years. Flouride is naturally occurring in lots of water. In some parts of the country its above 4 parts a million. Most munis that flouridate go to 0.9 to 1.1 ppm. In fact a lot of places add little to no flouride to hit that goal. Just because you are getting water from a well, or a muni that doesn't flouridate, doesn't mean you are getting water without flouride. Again you ask how do you know. I have been treating water for the past 8 + years.

ironbrewer 02-02-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondo (Post 20633386)
Most reverse osmosis drinking water filtration systems will remove fluoride.


The problem with RO water is that it is stripped of just about everything, making it very aggressive.

PrairieRider 02-02-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ironbrewer (Post 20635459)
The problem with RO water is that it is stripped of just about everything, making it very aggressive.

What is aggressive water? I've had a fair amount of chemistry and did a masters project on water quality but haven't heaven't heard this expression.

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ironbrewer 02-02-2013 11:17 PM

As you know water is a great solvent. It dissolves just about everything, but fat. If the water doesn't have anything, but H2O in it the water dissolves everything much more. If it has calcium carbonate, sodium chloride, etcetera it cannot attack (disolve lots of chemicals) because it already has them in it. In water treatment we actually increase the pH up to about 8 (adding stuff like salts) to make the water less agressive. Agressive water destroys pipes etc. Water chemistry is extremely complex as I'm sure you know, but many people think that such agressive water is hard on your body.

TooFast 02-03-2013 05:56 AM

Thanks Ironbrewer.

Many years ago my employer installed a RODI water system for manufacturing use, The equipment had tags stating
"Not for consumption....refer to your manual for further information". Never saw the manual but during our maintenance training it was mentioned the human body could not live off reverse osmosis deionized water and the importance of monitoring the systems flow meter and changing the filters. He also mentioned the health issues with home RO systems.

This was way back in the early 80's when a telemarketer would call you at suppertime to sell you a home RO system and never mention the required filter changes. And the filters were not cheap so many RO system owners skipped on regular filter changes.

Eldorado Spring water analysis http://www.eldoradosprings.com/index...ction=analysis

P.S. Was out truck shopping and accepted a free bottle of water - on the label it said "Dallas Texas municipal water"

nwcolorider 02-03-2013 07:03 AM

Nice explanation on the water Jim, aggressive water will also remove needed minerals and such from your blood stream, it is so pure, that minerals will diffuse into it. Like stated above. My well has great water, but has natural fluoride in it also. I have it tested yearly for heavy metals, fluoride is always on the others list. just under 1 ppm.

markamazing 02-03-2013 09:05 AM

heat
 
increases aggressiveness ?

ROAD DAMAGE 02-03-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ironbrewer (Post 20635453)
If you drink beer most is made with muni water. How do I know? I was a commercial brewer for 12 years. Flouride is naturally occurring in lots of water. In some parts of the country its above 4 parts a million. Most munis that flouridate go to 0.9 to 1.1 ppm. In fact a lot of places add little to no flouride to hit that goal. Just because you are getting water from a well, or a muni that doesn't flouridate, doesn't mean you are getting water without flouride. Again you ask how do you know. I have been treating water for the past 8 + years.

+1 :nod

Good info and food for thought from ironbrewer here Bill. ^^^^^

I've tested well water (for household use and domestic consumption) here in Routt County that routinely had between 25 - 50 ppm of NATURALLY OCCURRING flouride! At these levels it will mottle teeth and replace Ca in bones. Pretty darn dangerous really. So to reinforce ironbrewer's point, don't assume that just because water HASN'T been treated with flouride ............. that it doesn't contain a high concentration of it already.

We usually tested with an ion specific electrode for Flouride. The only other ion that significantly interfered with this probe was a hydroxide ion and and if you suspected any issues, you could buffer the sample to then negate this interference. In short, it is a pretty accurate method.

I think that there has to be a "sweet spot" level for flouride, and it's probably a bit lower than what most of us are getting. The recommended levels have recently been revised downward here in the US I believe. At least they were talking about doing that not too long ago. Even with all the negative press that this issue receives, I remember reading somewhere that the flouridating of US water supplies is still widely considered one of the 10 most important health accomplishments of the 20th century. (or something to that effect)

Rob

ironbrewer 02-03-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ROAD DAMAGE (Post 20640819)
+1 :nod



I think that there has to be a "sweet spot" level for flouride, and it's probably a bit lower than what most of us are getting. The recommended levels have recently been revised downward here in the US I believe. At least they were talking about doing that not too long ago. Even with all the negative press that this issue receives, I remember reading somewhere that the flouridating of US water supplies is still widely considered one of the 10 most important health accomplishments of the 20th century. (or something to that effect)

Rob

I'm pretty sure that the recommended level of flouride is 0.8 to 1.1 ppm, and yes flouridation of water is considered one of the top 10 most important health accomplishments in health in the 20th century.


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