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fimp 03-25-2013 06:54 AM

KTM 450 rally / Rear tank
 
Hi

I am looking at good pictures of the rear tank from the KTM 450 rally (ref KTM 7630721300028A).

Does any one of you have some pictures ?

Thanks a lot

Fred

LukasM 03-25-2013 02:50 PM

The tank is the same as the one used on the KTM 690 Enduro and SMC, except the area where those have a muffler is filled out a bit more.

fimp 03-26-2013 03:18 AM

KTM 450 rally / Rear tank
 
Hi Lukas

Thanks for answering but I'm affraid you're wrong ! :-)))

The 690 SMC and the 690Enduro have the same rear tank (ref 7650701314433A). Its cost is 1253 euros all accessories included.

But the 450 RR have a different rear tank (ref 7630721300028A) and its design is definetly different. Its costs is 784 euros but without any accessories.

Any of you have some pictures of the 450 RR rear tank ? Thx

Fred

LukasM 03-26-2013 03:29 AM

You misunderstood my answer. Yes the 690 Enduro and SMC use the same tank.

The tank of the 450 Rally has the same basic shape as the 690 E /SMC, the only difference is that it is a bit more filled out on the left side in the area where the 690 has the muffler. The rear fender, the filler, the fixings to the frame, the cutouts on the bottom (fuel pump on 690, fuel tap on 450) are all the same.

If 12 liters is enough for you, you should be able to find a used 690 tank a lot cheaper than you can buy a 450 Rally tank. Then you can also tuck in the muffler so it is not as prone to damage as when mounted lower. I think a friend of mine has one, if you want I can ask.

Xico 03-26-2013 04:49 AM

Pictures from Egypt!
 
Here are some pictures of the tank already on a 690 (from Sam and Clare, that I found in Egypt on a RTW trip on 2x 690's with the 450 Dakar rear and front tanks!)

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12920875/45...%20%281%29.JPG

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12920875/45...%20%282%29.JPG

fimp 03-26-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukasM (Post 21035829)
The tank of the 450 Rally has the same basic shape as the 690 E /SMC, the only difference is that it is a bit more filled out on the left side in the area where the 690 has the muffler. The rear fender, the filler, the fixings to the frame, the cutouts on the bottom (fuel pump on 690, fuel tap on 450) are all the same.

If 12 liters is enough for you, you should be able to find a used 690 tank a lot cheaper than you can buy a 450 Rally tank. Then you can also tuck in the muffler so it is not as prone to damage as when mounted lower. I think a friend of mine has one, if you want I can ask.

OK
But if you look at the draws in the KTM catalogs, the 450's tank looks very different from the 690's one. The shapes are quiet no the same...
But the idea is good anyway as 12 liters could be enough...

Yes please ask your friend how much he would sell it (as the exact reference) and what accessories are included.

Thx

Fred

Motorfiets 03-26-2013 01:39 PM

can a 690 rear tank be made to fit 450/525/530/500 ? :ear

Mudguts 03-26-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motorfiets (Post 21039595)
can a 690 rear tank be made to fit 450/525/530/500 ? :ear

That would be a big no , 690 trellis perimeter frame 450 ,530 back bone frame
There be a hell of a lot of chopping and welding , it would be easier to fit a 450, 530 motor in. 690 frame .

If I get seriously bord one week end I might see if my 500 motor will fit in the 690 but that will be when the 690 motor is out get a 730 bib bore

Motorfiets 03-26-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudguts (Post 21040940)
That would be a big no , 690 trellis perimeter frame 450 ,530 back bone frame
There be a hell of a lot of chopping and welding , it would be easier to fit a 450, 530 motor in. 690 frame .

If I get seriously bord one week end I might see if my 500 motor will fit in the 690 but that will be when the 690 motor is out get a 730 bib bore

I would be most curious of this!! :clap

tHEtREV 03-26-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudguts (Post 21040940)
That would be a big no , 690 trellis perimeter frame 450 ,530 back bone frame
There be a hell of a lot of chopping and welding , it would be easier to fit a 450, 530 motor in. 690 frame .

If I get seriously bord one week end I might see if my 500 motor will fit in the 690 but that will be when the 690 motor is out get a 730 bib bore

I don't see how the frame type would make that much difference.

I thought it would be about the same amount of hassle as grafting a different subframe on (with the exception of air box and shock location)...

rallyreplica 11-16-2013 03:12 PM

"But the 450 RR have a different rear tank (ref 7630721300028A) and its design is definetly different. Its costs is 784 euros but without any accessories."


Just out of curiosity...where are you getting this information? I'm looking at building a 450 rally inspired motorcycle and am looking for rear tanks. I can cut/chop/weld subframe to suit my needs but would rather buy professionally made rear tanks. Any info on how to purchase them would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Rally

Mudguts 11-16-2013 04:20 PM

How to purchase , order from your KTM dealer and wait, been that that all rally parts are made for the factory race teams , you will have to wait until the team have there spares for dakar ,you might be lucky as there is a new model 2014 rally , they might release the strait away , I had to wait six months for my tanks

Jan from Finland 11-17-2013 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xico (Post 21036033)
Here are some pictures of the tank already on a 690 (from Sam and Clare, that I found in Egypt on a RTW trip on 2x 690's with the 450 Dakar rear and front tanks!)

That's KTM Basel's Defy kit. Are you saing that it has been build using the tanks of KTM rally kit? They didn't mention that on the site.

http://www.ktmbasel.ch/ktm-basel-690...avel-bike.html

italrally 11-19-2013 03:31 AM

pictures rear tank 450 KTM Rally factory
 
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psb37ca736.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ps51ad1852.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ly/file-12.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ps080b020e.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ps15891d95.jpg


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