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motocrotts 04-06-2013 04:47 PM

Heidenau K60 problems
 
Any of you guys have any problems with the rear K60 getting tears or cracks? Mine has 1500 miles on it, probably 50/50 dirt/street and I have several cuts or tears running from the front of the knob to the base of the tire. I'm really surprised at this as none of my GS buds are having any problems and I thought this was supposed to be a long lasting tough tire. Plus my 990 is tons lighter than the Beemers. I've been running 30 psi off road and 38 on road with Alpina Tubless wheels. The dealer has taken pictures and set to Heidenau so I'm just waiting on if it's a flaw or normal wear. I don't feel confident enough in the tire now to take any serious rides or take the wife for a trip.

Chop Chop 04-06-2013 05:42 PM

What size is it? I had an 140/80 18 and it didn't last. Got pretty chew up on various terrain. However an 140/80 17 went pretty well on my mates 800GS, in the same circumstances.

(the 18in I had was also on a 800GS)

Two Moto Kiwis 04-06-2013 05:50 PM

Yes we got cracks and it severely impacted the life of the tire and we only got 13000 miles out of it :D

The cracks appeared early but never got any bigger as I kept an eye on them but yours does not sound ideal if it is that bad

motocrotts 04-06-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chop Chop (Post 21125572)
What size is it? I had an 140/80 18 and it didn't last. Got pretty chew up on various terrain. However an 140/80 17 went pretty well on my mates 800GS, in the same circumstances.

(the 18in I had was also on a 800GS)

I'm sorry the tire size is 150/70 - 18

Capt.saveaho 04-06-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Moto Kiwis (Post 21125626)
Yes we got cracks and it severely impacted the life of the tire and we only got 13000 miles out of it :D

The cracks appeared early but never got any bigger as I kept an eye on them but yours does not sound ideal if it is that bad

13000... How?:huh

Two Moto Kiwis 04-06-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.saveaho (Post 21126927)
13000... How?:huh

That was our reaction too, all related to the right hand, never had a tire last that long especially with house and contents on!!

I am impressed and to be honest don't want to run anything else now.

Frog uk 04-07-2013 12:06 AM

Just finished my first set of k60 scouts at around 7,000 miles, best mileage of any I tried on the Adv.
It does have a few nicks n tears, but I put that down to all the sideways messing about I've done on it.
Really good tyres for the Adv IMO and another set going on.

Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2

skidxr 04-07-2013 06:58 AM

I didn't have good luck with that tire at all on the 990. It was shredded in no time but I'm a bit heavy handed on the throttle. I have way better luck with the stock Scorp.. Especially at have the cost. YMMV...

bomose 04-07-2013 08:26 AM

I've got over 8k miles on mine. That's riding 2 up around Moab and the dirt roads of Colorado plus street trips in Co, Ut, and around the Southeast. I'll probably get another 2k out of them. They do well, both street and dirt for me. Much better offroad the the Scorps.The most mileage I got from the stock Scorps was 4k.

Scott Baja 04-07-2013 01:06 PM

Im interested to hear more about the saftey issue regarding cracks. Cant help but worry when making a pass at 100mph. :evil

motocrotts 04-07-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Baja (Post 21130330)
Im interested to hear more about the saftey issue regarding cracks. Cant help but worry when making a pass at 100mph. :evil

I'm right there with you. I will post info I receive from them next week.

ciedema 04-07-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.saveaho (Post 21126927)
13000... How?:huh

He rides like a pussy :rofl

charlie264 04-08-2013 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog uk (Post 21127199)
Just finished my first set of k60 scouts at around 7,000 miles, best mileage of any I tried on the Adv.
It does have a few nicks n tears, but I put that down to all the sideways messing about I've done on it.
Really good tyres for the Adv IMO and another set going on.

Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2

Same here, no cracks on my second K60 140/18, third in the garage....about 6000 miles life...about a 1000-2000 more than other enduro rears.

dave54 04-08-2013 01:42 AM

Have`nt had any problems with rear K60 on my 990.Ran about 5,000miles on a set and no obvious fault cracks or damage that I can see apart from what I would consider normal wear and tear.I would put another K60 on the rear as I was impressed with its performance.However I too would be interested in the report back from heidenau as to the what caused your K60 to fail like you describe.Any photos by the way?.You mentioned alpina tubless wheels are on your bike.Any similar issues with other tires on the tubless set up or is it just the K60.
Regards Dave54

jfink 04-08-2013 04:24 AM

Yup, I am getting pretty good mileage out of mine (150/70-18), but I have had these cracks in both my second and third tire.

THIRD TIRE
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p...5/P1040011.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...1/P1040012.JPG

SECOND TIRE
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...5/P1020960.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...5/P1020961.JPG


I am traveling through the Americas and in Brazil right now, so because of my concern I sent a message to Heidenau through info@heidenautires.com and actually got a response. Here is what John B at Heidenau had to say:

"Hello Joe,

We seen these before and though they look bad, haven't posed a threat, often come about from over-inflation. Where they've statistically turned-up a lot, has been Alaska. Riders would arrive at our dealer in Fairbanks after coming up from the lower 48 and have these same cracks. The shops there found the tire inflation at 45lbs or better when the tire is designed for 36lbs. Since they were running loaded and BMW says 42lbs the riders were over-inflating them. The combination of heavy load, long stretches of freeway, and to much pressure would cause cracks.

If I was out in the middle of C.America I'd change it to, but we haven't had a failure due to these cracks.

John B"


I didn't over inflate so I took him at his word that they wouldn't cause any problems, and so far they haven't.


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