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Voz 04-27-2013 11:16 PM

GS vs GSA What is the difference really?
 
From what I can see the GSA adds:

- Crash Bars
- Bigger Tank
- Bigger Wheels
- More off road oriented tyres
- Larger Fuel Tank

It also seems that they often do not have full electronics.

Is there anything else? Apart from the fuel tank I presume that you can easily turn a GS into a GSA?

I ask this question as I see a lot of posts here salivating over a GSA.

jimbeauxk 04-27-2013 11:33 PM

That 8+ gal tank is a big reason I have one, I don't like filling up about every other day on a 60 mile R/T commute. And about 2 inches taller. For those of us north of 6', that can make a world of difference.

OEM tires aren't a factor for me, it's not long until we all get to swap them out for something else.

Otherwise, yes, I believe you can make a GS fairly close to a GSA.

Eyore 04-28-2013 01:22 AM

and of course a GSA is musch more macho:wink:

teomannaskali 04-28-2013 03:04 AM

And the gear ratios

marty hill 04-28-2013 03:36 AM

Wheels are the same except for color. On the triple black 12GS they are the same color.
Tires are luck of the draw/some same/some not.

sarelp 04-28-2013 04:29 AM

GSA has a lower 1st gear, wheels are the same size but ground clearance is higher. The bigger fuel tank is a plus.
GSA have spoke wheels. GSA is awesomeness x10!!

Boondox 04-28-2013 05:45 AM

I have one of each. I use the 2010 GSA for long trips as the much larger fuel tank and the enduro tranny better meet my needs. The 2007 GS is a more nimble machine, and is my blasting down dirt roads bike.

The GSA comes well-equipped with aux lights, crashbars, valve cover protectors, wider footpegs, bags and spokes but in my opinion there are much better aftermarket options. I've replaced the anorexic aux lights with Kristas, and the one drop and they're ruined valve cover guards with MachineArt Moto covers. The stationary foot pegs were replaced with PivotPegz. I much prefer the look of the TT stainless crashbars, Jesse bags, and the Migsel lightbar on my GS, but not enough to pay more to swap out perfectly serviceable OEM parts. I did get the GS with spoked wheels though.

I guess my complaints about the GSA come down to aesthetics. There is a sameness to all GSAs that you don't see on GSes. Sort of like all Harleys look alike, and all Urals look alike. But the fuel capacity and lower first gear are worth their weight in gold...for my riding style.

hammick 04-28-2013 06:03 AM

If you plan to turn a GS into a GSA you will spend much more. I can't really say their either of them are reasonably priced but for what you get extra on the GSA it is a relatively small upcharge compared to the GS.

My dealer orders mostly premium package GSA bikes.

VolInGA 04-28-2013 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbeauxk (Post 21283806)
That 8+ gal tank is a big reason I have one, I don't like filling up about every other day on a 60 mile R/T commute. And about 2 inches taller. For those of us north of 6', that can make a world of difference.

OEM tires aren't a factor for me, it's not long until we all get to swap them out for something else.

Otherwise, yes, I believe you can make a GS fairly close to a GSA.

Completely agree. I commute 100 miles R/T and love not having to fill up every day. Wind protection and ergos seem better on the Adv. for us taller folks (6'3") and when you come out of the office at the end of the day and find a spring storm in GA has blown the bike over, the standard crash bars/guards are priceless. Just pick it up, check to make sure you didn't give yourself a hernia, then ride away smiling. And of course it looks much cooler parked at Starbucks!!!

channa51 04-28-2013 07:38 AM

glad someone referenced a big difference between the two-the weight...less is more.

JustKip 04-28-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hammick (Post 21284580)
If you plan to turn a GS into a GSA you will spend much more. I can't really say their either of them are reasonably priced but for what you get extra on the GSA it is a relatively small upcharge compared to the GS.

My dealer orders mostly premium package GSA bikes.

The things you get on a GSA that have any actual value (IF you want them) are the bigger tank and lower first gear. You see MANY OEM fog lights for sale here in the flea market...OK, prewired for aftermarket lights is another plus.

Some have mentioned the ergos of the bike (GSA)for taller riders...it's the SAME bike, with seats that interchange.

Spokes are available on the GS as well.

So yeah. The things you get on a GSA that you can't get on a GS are the enduro trans gearing (same transmission) and big-ass tank...and, of course, macho.
As my gay brother once said about a woman he was living with "She's my beard"

jimbeauxk 04-28-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustKip (Post 21285282)
Some have mentioned the ergos of the bike (GSA)for taller riders...it's the SAME bike, with seats that interchange.

Check the suspension travel. There's an extra inch on the GSA. You're brother would probably say that's a big difference. :shog Seat heights per specs: GS 33", GSA 35.2".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_R1200GS

jimbeauxk 04-28-2013 08:21 AM

But I believe it's personal preference, really hate to see this turn into a civil war over which is better. I have a GSA, and the last thing I'd do is turn my nose up to someone on a GS, to me there's not enough of a price difference to ascertain a difference in quality. Like many have said, they are nearly equivalent, only pre-accessorized (?) with some items, save for the tank and gearing. Take a GS and add the same equipment, and we're neck and neck cost wise.

Dieselboy 04-28-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Voz (Post 21283771)
From what I can see the GSA adds:

- Crash Bars
- Bigger Tank
- Bigger Wheels
- More off road oriented tyres
- Larger Fuel Tank

It also seems that they often do not have full electronics.

Is there anything else? Apart from the fuel tank I presume that you can easily turn a GS into a GSA?

I ask this question as I see a lot of posts here salivating over a GSA.



Sidestand and centerstand will be physically longer on the GSA.

Schlug 04-28-2013 08:36 AM

anyone can add crash bars and aux lights, and they can be even better than the BMW bars and a bit less expensive.

Your shocks will usually need replacing in 30,000 miles give or take, at which time you can add adventure length aftermarkets to any GS.

tires are tires.

Anyone riding the GS offroad should have wire spoked wheels.

The big tank is the kicker here. It can be swapped out but those big tanks are bastard expensive.

Some people will never push the GS that far, but I have needed extra fuel and stared at a glowing amber low fuel light so many times I won't buy another GS unless it has the big tank. And that's just the way it is.


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