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Meter Man 05-11-2013 08:21 PM

Well That is a great introduction to BMWs....
 
Bought a new to me 2008 GS1200 today from a Dealer that I trust and have good experiences with in the past.

On my virgin run I discover oil all over my right boot, leg and side of the bike....

I am none too happy, we'll see what they say Monday morning. At this point I don't want the bike anymore even if they repair it. :cry

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JimVonBaden 05-11-2013 08:26 PM

At first I was thinking donut gasket improperly installed:

http://www.jimvonbaden.com/images/22-place-donut.jpg

But the ruined paint on the valve cover smacks of a bad repaint of the valve cover, or chemical contamination.

The damaged stick coil and oil coated rubber are likely not related, but need replacing.


Let them have a look and explain the situation before you condemn the bike alltogether. It might end up being no big deal.

Jim :brow

Meter Man 05-11-2013 08:31 PM

The rubber piece in the 3rd picture is part of the cylinder head guard, hence why I didn't see the damage when inspecting the bike at the dealership.

I did enjoy the 70 miles I did today until I discovered the problem, however I have the kind of personality wherein I will think about this every time I get on the bike, even if the dealership fixes it up.

At this point I'm going to ask them to refund me and be on my way.

At least it wasn't the final drive.......:lol3

AviatorTroy 05-11-2013 09:46 PM

I'm sure someone else will enjoy it then.....

ShaftEd 05-11-2013 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden (Post 21388569)
At first I was thinking donut gasket improperly installed:

http://www.jimvonbaden.com/images/22-place-donut.jpg

But the ruined paint on the valve cover smacks of a bad repaint of the valve cover, or chemical contamination.

The damaged stick coil and oil coated rubber are likely not related, but need replacing.


Let them have a look and explain the situation before you condemn the bike alltogether. It might end up being no big deal.

Jim :brow

Jim, I'd say you are right. Gasket improperly installed or missing completely. The stick coil was bathed in hot oil and also soaked the rubber protecter causing heat transfer and the melting. Simple fix though. New valve cover, stick coil and a few other parts and she's good to go.

08's are a good year and very easy to service yourself. Then something like this should never happen again.:deal

mariowink 05-11-2013 11:49 PM

Simple fix
 
I agree about the inner gasket on the valve cover. Easy fix. It's a great bike. Fix it and enjoy it.

Meter Man 05-12-2013 06:10 AM

Thanks for the diagnosis Jim!

N-m 05-12-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meter Man (Post 21388592)
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At this point I'm going to ask them to refund me and be on my way.

I bought an older GS b/c I wanted to run into small issues like this for the experience. I have a buddy who has the same outlook on life as you so I have a great deal of experience with your attitude. A GS is NOT for you so you are making the right choice. :wink:

Meter Man 05-12-2013 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-m (Post 21390140)
I bought an older GS b/c I wanted to run into small issues like this for the experience. I have a buddy who has the same outlook on life as you so I have a great deal of experience with your attitude. A GS is NOT for you so you are making the right choice. :wink:

I expect things to go wrong on the shit box motorcycles I've owned in the past, the reason I bought a lightly used (9,000 mile) late model GS was to avoid all the picky little stuff that happens on motorcycles as the mileage goes up.

But you are right, the GS is not for me if this kind of stuff happens frequently.

Unstable Rider 05-12-2013 06:47 AM

I could understand if it was a Ural, the "clone" as it were, but you lay out that kind of bread, you would like to think you are buying quality, reliability, an assurance of "ride and not have to work on the bike" much.

A nice Vee Strom maybe in your future. Or a Super Tenere.

Ride and no worries.

Gezerbike 05-12-2013 06:47 AM

It doesn't happen any more frequently on a GS than any other BMW model. Ya, I too would be bummed about it....it certainly probably took the excitement out of the first ride I' m sure. But it is an easy fix, and an easy mistake to make. At least you know that your dealer was in there making adjustments before you bought it. And they should have caught it on the test ride. But you said you like the dealer and trust them...I suspect they will treat you right.

mattjw916 05-12-2013 07:36 AM

OP needs a tissue or maybe some cheese...

Seriously, fix it properly and move on. Buying a used bike is always buying somebody else's problems. Buying a new bike is just buying a heretofore unknown set of problems to be determined at a later date.

markjenn 05-12-2013 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meter Man (Post 21390217)
But you are right, the GS is not for me if this kind of stuff happens frequently.

If this sort of minor problem - in a used bike, especially - is having us talk you off the ledge, you probably don't want a BMW. Or a bunch of other bikes, for that matter. A DL650 would be my suggestion.

- Mark

Schlug 05-12-2013 07:43 AM

Yeah, let's not get too excited. It's not hard to put that valve cover on wrong and pinch that little gasket. It's not difficult but one needs to be careful. I think Jim's video (it's been a while since I've seen it-- like, years) says to install the valve cover with the donut on it in one move and if you think you've slid it on cocked to one side and the rubber donut has been misplaced a little, take it back it all back off and start again or it will leak. Though not much, usually.

This isn't a SOS moment and certainly no reason to tie that albatross of a Vee Strom around your neck.

mouthfulloflake 05-12-2013 07:43 AM

The issue is that the last person that serviced the bike did not alighn the donut seal up properly when replacing the valve cover, or left it off completely.

So basically you are blaming the bike for a mistake that the dealer most likely made.

I just wonder if you will return the bike and then buy another from the same dealer, if so it demonstrates a severe lack of logic in your decision making process.


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