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Dagofast 05-12-2013 04:26 PM

1995 VW Passat? Good? Average? Run away?
 
Here's the deal: This really is the proverbial little old ladies car. My almost 80 year old mom has hit the stage where she has decided she is done driving. She has offered to sell her beloved little sedan (for a VERY reasonable price) to our almost 18 year old son who will be a HS senior next fall.

It has a whopping 43k miles on it, and has always been garaged except for the last 2 months at her new adult retirement community where transportation vans are provided that she much prefers. It had 35k on it when she moved from Vegas to southern Oregon 9 years ago, so she obviously isn't going to be exactly missing the open road. :deal

My sister lives nearby and has texted me down some requested pictures. Cosmetically, the car is almost perfect. The tires look good, but they have date codes going back to 2001, so new rubber will be on the list before we even attempt to drive it anywhere but the nearest tire store. The battery is flat from sitting for the last 2 months but that's a cheap & easy fix. It has a normally aspirated 2.0L 4 cylinder (NOT a TDI!? :eek1) with an auto trans that mom initially hated since all her previous cars had sticks. She did grow to accept it as she got older as being the right choice. That is also the only feature the boy isn't wild about, bless his evil little heart. :evil

Insurance will be cheaper than the 177k mile '99 Suburban he has been driving since he got his permit. Needless to say, so will his gasoline bill. :lol3
Two plane tickets from PHX to MFR will run about $225. So far, I'm not seeing any reason NOT to jump on this.

Anyone know of a reason to take a pass? There isn't a whole lot of information out there on models this old, but VW's in general wouldn't be my first pick due to some of the bitching I hear from friends that have had one or even here on ADV where it seems only love/hate opinions exist. I've heard window regulators drop like flies at $250 a pop, door latches are made of cream cheese and that electrical gremlins can rival an old english sports car, but the motors and trans are solid. Are parts still readily available from VW for a car this old?

What say the collective? :ear

Dagofast 05-12-2013 05:18 PM

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neanderthal 05-12-2013 05:37 PM

Tires will be an odd (225/50R15) impossible to find size.

other than that, I've hit nothing.

Signal 05-12-2013 05:55 PM

what's not to like:dunno


ANything in that range would be a gamble at some level- better the devil yo know

SOunds like a good road trip :deal

Ursa Major 05-12-2013 06:27 PM

I had a '96 Passat TDI (same platform) that I drove for about 30k miles in 9 months, then foolishly sold. Different drivetrain (TDI and manual), but I had zero problems with the car. The places to look are vwvortex.com (I assume they have a B4 forum) and on TDIClub.com - I'd bet that a much higher percentage of TDI's from that platform (96 and 97) have survived than the gassers, and the guys there know the problems better than most.

rapidoxidationman 05-12-2013 07:41 PM

Unless it has been documented as already being done, make sure the fluids and timing belt get changed, along with everything the TB touches. they may have not many miles, but the car does have almost 20 years...

Other than that, Fly and Drive!

Dagofast 05-12-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neanderthal (Post 21393728)
Tires will be an odd (225/50R15) impossible to find size.

other than that, I've hit nothing.

This one is a GLS and has 195/60/14's on it. Still not exactly a popular size, but there are enough to choose from.

Dagofast 05-12-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rapidoxidationman (Post 21394567)
Unless it has been documented as already being done, make sure the fluids and timing belt get changed, along with everything the TB touches. they may have not many miles, but the car does have almost 20 years...

Other than that, Fly and Drive!

Timing belt! :yikes Thanks for reminding me why I hated those things. I'll have mom check her service logs. She thinks she had a major service done about 2 years ago. Hopefully, the belt has been changed.

vwboomer 05-12-2013 09:15 PM

the 2.slow is bullet proof. typical issues would be things like window regulators. Not a big deal really. The timing belt if it hasnt been done, isnt a big deal to change. Nothing a couple hours cant fix.

I owned a 96. Some small problems but nothing that kept it off the road. I wish I hadnt sold it :cry I put a stage2 supercharger on it, coilovers, and a whoopass stereo. sigh.

Kokopelli 05-12-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagofast (Post 21393319)
I've heard window regulators drop like flies at $250 a pop,

We have a '94 Golf GLI, my son drives it. It has done short distances all its life and is now up to 190000km. It has been pretty good, but is now slowly falling apart. Not a speck of rust on it, though.

It has had the window problem, but from what I could tell, it's a little plastic clip that breaks. Each time its done that, I went and wrapped some fine wire around it, to hold it in place. It's been going for a few years like that. Oh, the air-conditioning has died years ago. The compressor shat itself and contaminated the system.

It's basically a solid car and I have no regrets.

Dagofast 05-13-2013 07:12 AM

Thanks for all the feedback!
Dagoboy has decided he must have it. Airline tickets booked...the adventure will commence on Memorial day. :clap

longwallman 05-13-2013 08:30 AM

Passat
 
I don't think you will regret it. My 96 Passat TDI wagon was the best car I have ever owned.

Commuter Boy 05-13-2013 01:35 PM

Make sure all the electrics work, VW's of that generation can be hit and miss in the wiring department.

I don't think you'll find anyone who will have something good to say about VW slushboxes. It might be ok if the previous owner was religious about fluid changes.

ragtoplvr 05-13-2013 01:46 PM

If it has a sensor in the coolant reservoir then unplug it and check for antifreeze. It will eventually fill the wire harness with antifreeze. If it is good, then cut a weep hole in the seal do it does not do more than kill it's self.

Check the struts and CV joint boots, some of the later German rubber is NOT good.

If it has a fuel filter change it along with all the oils and flush the brake fluid. Be sure to stomp on the brakes hard, the rubber brake lines can also be bad, see comments on German rubber above.

And timing, Serpentine or V belts as already stated OE is made of German rubber, see comments above.

Then enjoy a bonding drive with your son. Make it fun.

Rod

Dagofast 05-15-2013 12:38 PM

This morning my sister and her hubby went over to mom's to pick up the car and take it in for an oil change and a new battery. After they jump started it and my bro in law drove away in it, mom started to cry. :cry

Sis asked her if she wanted to change her mind, said it would be okay with us if she did. Mom said no, it's just hard to give up your independence and the possessions you worked hard for your whole life. Giving up her piano was really hard too.

Getting old sucks ass. :deal


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