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eblack 06-16-2013 04:18 PM

Defensive spray
 
Bought myself a 1200GS the other day and I am Alaska bound in a few weeks. I have kind of a silly question but I think it bears (no pun intended:rofl) asking-since I will be riding through Canada, where defensive sprays and guns are prohibited, what kind of alternative is out there? I know, I know, a lot of defenses are worthless against a charging grizzly, but I would like to have SOME type of defense that is legal to have, if anything just to make me feel better. I think I heard someone say somewhere through Ferris Buellers third cousin once removed that those canisters to take out wasp nests are a good alternative. Any thoughts or suggestions?

JimVonBaden 06-16-2013 04:31 PM

Bring a slow "friend" you don't particularly like!:deal

Jim :brow

Hikertrash 06-16-2013 04:32 PM

I thought bear spray was legal up there? It's pepper spray that is illegal. I was looking into it because I wanted to cross up to start mt CDR ride in Banff.

Gale B.T. 06-16-2013 04:41 PM

eblack, we cross into Canada and also back into the states on the return with the large can of "Bear Spray", no problem. My choice was to purchase in Canada and I got Spike Professional Bear Deterret in the large can.

The border guards will ask I tell them I have the large can of Bear Spray. They seem to be looking for the small 'personal protection pepper type' but the large bear spray as above has been ok going up and back for at least the last 8 years in my trips, usually one per year to Canada or AK.

me 2 cent

SJSharkfan 06-16-2013 04:47 PM

Last year my friend and I trekked up to the arctic circle. My friend was concerned about bears so he bought some "bear spray" at a sporting goods store in Canada. It must work pretty good cause we didn't see ANY bears! Maybe it was the area we travelled, but we didn't feel we needed it. My friend probably slept better at night.:snore

eblack 06-16-2013 05:22 PM

Thanks for the input, I would rather HAVE food for thought than BE food for the bears. I have crossed the Canadian border many times, they always ask if I have a defensive spray, I thought that included bear sprays as well as mace and such, seems I have misunderstood. I will look into it further.

teomannaskali 06-16-2013 05:25 PM

Better to have it and not need it than not have it and need it.

Willie B 06-16-2013 05:36 PM

I'm not thinking personal protection sprays would be effective against bears. Most standard caliber handguns aren't effective as well and the Alaskan State Police carry shot guns with slugs for defense against charging bears. A slow and timid friend would probably be your best bet. My son and his buddies got a hold of a can of bear spray I kept on my road bike for unfriendly dogs. I assumed they were a bit more intelligent than spraying one another with an aerosol bear spray. I would be happy to forward his number for a first hand product evaluation.

Chat Lunatique 06-16-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eblack (Post 21658064)
Bought myself a 1200GS the other day and I am Alaska bound in a few weeks. I have kind of a silly question but I think it bears (no pun intended:rofl) asking-since I will be riding through Canada, where defensive sprays and guns are prohibited, what kind of alternative is out there? I know, I know, a lot of defenses are worthless against a charging grizzly, but I would like to have SOME type of defense that is legal to have, if anything just to make me feel better. I think I heard someone say somewhere through Ferris Buellers third cousin once removed that those canisters to take out wasp nests are a good alternative. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Set up a perimeter with claymore mines and a trip wire :lol3

Seriously, bear spray is just gonna piss 'em off. By the time you get it out of it's holster, a griz will be all over you. Your best defense is to have no food or smell of food in your camp. Any type of mace is illegal but pepper sprays are OK as long as they are not designed for use on humans. I have one I carry for dogs when I'm out walking.

Guns are OK under certain circumstances. A shotgun with slugs might make you sleep better, but no handguns or M16 type weapons. Here's the info...

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...sf5044-eng.pdf

acejones 06-16-2013 07:11 PM

Maybe you should consider some place where the wildlife are friendlier. You could go to New Orleans..... as long as you avoid certain areas.

Too Tall 06-16-2013 08:27 PM

In 2006, my daughter and I crossed the border into Canada just east of Glacier National Park. I carried true bear spray and she had the human personal defense type spray. I passed thru fine after showing them the canister but she had to sign paperwork and turn her spray over to the crossing people.

Bear spray is a more potent spray than personal defense spray and would certainly work well for her intended use.

acejones 06-16-2013 08:43 PM

This reminds me of when I went through Army Basic Combat Training in 1968; we were going through bayonet training and it occurred to me that if I was close enough to need a bayonet, I was too damn close.

River 06-16-2013 08:50 PM

we camp and hike through heavy populated bear country here and have found bear bangers to be most effective...we carry bear spray as well, but that's the last resort:evil

acejones 06-16-2013 08:56 PM

I'm familiar with bear bells. A bear banger is.....?

hammick 06-16-2013 09:04 PM

As long as it is labeled as bear spray you will have no problem taking it across the border. My buddy and I both had a can on our Artic Circle trip last year.

If you live in Grizzly country you can buy it at many different places. If you don't live in Grizz country then you can get it a Cabellas or any other big box outdoor store.

I feel that in addition to bear protection it would also work to deter two legged jackoffs.


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