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GoGoGavin41 06-21-2013 03:28 PM

Negotiating Railroad Tracks on a Adv Bike
 
So I'm probably going on a ride tomorrow with some friends on an abandoned railroad. I've done some of this route before on a mountain bike and it is occurring to me now that there are a number of places that you have to ride inside the tracks or cross them completely. I know this route is frequented by smaller bikes (the people I'm riding with have ridden it several times on 250s and 400s/also a few videos on youtube of people riding it), but I'm thinking 990s aren't normally the first choice for this trail.

Any tricks for getting over tracks on a big bike? Seems to me like it may be kind of a chore.

rapidoxidationman 06-21-2013 06:44 PM

Here's the first thing I thought of:

Crush: Okay. Squirt here will now give you a rundown of proper exiting technique.
Squirt: Good afternoon. We're gonna have a great jump today. Okay, first crank a hard cutback as you hit the wall. There's a screaming bottom curve, so watch out. Remember: rip it, roll it, and punch it.

Handy 06-21-2013 07:28 PM

That looks like a fun trail. I can't believe you are going to do it on a 990. Sorry I can't help with crossing the tracks, I have done it a trials bike but that technique might not carry over to your beast.

viverrid 06-21-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoGoGavin41 (Post 21697278)
....there are a number of places that you have to ride inside the tracks or cross them completely.

Crossing completely should be okay if you can get lined up at a right angle to the tracks. Carry enough momentum going in to make it over the second one.

From inside to get out could be a PITA on a 990 with its restricted steering range. Don't know how much you'll be able to get the front end turned before you hit the rail with the front tire. The theory is goose it to lift & lighten the front up a little, and go. Once the front is over the back will follow.

But I've not done yet it on my 990. Tell us how it goes!

Hop-Sing 06-23-2013 08:16 AM

RR Tracks
 
I think you should not attempt this on that big of bike.
You will not be able to ride over, you will have to have your friends help you lift it over. the spacing of RR tracks is just the wrong size. I to ride Trials bikes and they are tricky even on my 150 lbs 280 pro. Also riding in the cobble that the RR uses is not a lot of fun. you will find out soon.

WRW9751 06-23-2013 08:25 AM

Abandon?
 
As a retired railroader, I would encourage anyone that rides a railroad track to be very sure they are abandon! Some may seem that way, but see very little use. Usually railroads of today take up the rails when abandoning. Mostly for salvage and tax purposes. Trains run on supply and demand concept. Never really know when the customer needs a product. Just be very alert!

Supahflid 06-23-2013 10:17 AM

Shouldn't be any trouble on a 990 as long as you are mostly ninety degrees or so to the obstacle. I have easily climbed sixteen, eighteen inch steps and bigger on mine.

TexaNate 06-23-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Supahflid (Post 21707726)
Shouldn't be any trouble on a 990 as long as you are mostly ninety degrees or so to the obstacle. I have easily climbed sixteen, eighteen inch steps and bigger on mine.

I think OP is more worried about riding in the tracks and then getting out at some point.

I think crossing rails like that with less-than-perpendicular rail/wheel angles is asking for trouble. And if you drop, your 990 is going to get rammed by the rail it falls on.

Like someone said earlier - I think your best hope might be to loft the front wheel over. Not sure what you do when the rear stays on the inside since it probably won't wanna bump over a slippery rail, at least not on a <90degree angle.

Not a rail but here's a log showing what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJnMaGMTXAU

FirstPath 06-24-2013 02:56 PM

You could build up some debri/rocks on both sides of the track and use them as ramps to get over. Again, trickier with less than a 90 degree angle. Try it slow and see if other's can spot you. Help each other out.

KX50002 06-25-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoGoGavin41 (Post 21697278)
So I'm probably going on a ride tomorrow with some friends on an abandoned railroad. I've done some of this route before on a mountain bike and it is occurring to me now that there are a number of places that you have to ride inside the tracks or cross them completely. I know this route is frequented by smaller bikes (the people I'm riding with have ridden it several times on 250s and 400s/also a few videos on youtube of people riding it), but I'm thinking 990s aren't normally the first choice for this trail.

Any tricks for getting over tracks on a big bike? Seems to me like it may be kind of a chore.

Yes, it will be a chore, but the technique is the same. Stand up on the pegs, get your ass back over the rear of the seat, line up perpendicular to the tracks and wheelie over them. The only real problem with this is "if" you fail and fall on the rails it hurts ALOT, and could even break large bones (think femur)

As far as riding between the rails, I used to do this alot as a kid we rode the tracks everywhere, interestingly the suspension smooths out the bumps better as you go faster, about 50mph and you'd never know you're riding on railroad tracks.

Be careful following other riders, especially if they are on big 2 strokes, KX 500s have been known to throw large rocks from the railraod bed :evil

Rucksta 06-25-2013 07:42 AM

Call me a wuss
 
When riding between the tracks if I can't find a level crossing I stop the bike and lift one wheel over at a time.

LittleRedToyota 06-25-2013 11:55 AM

not really relevant to the OP's question of getting his big bike between the tracks so he can ride inside them, but a tip for crossing tracks that makes it a helluva lot easier...

line up so you are crossing on a tie, and not in between them. if you do that, keep your weight back (keep the front light...even in the air a little), and *stay on the gas*, you can pretty much just ride right over them. it's just a head game at that point.

hscrugby 06-26-2013 07:57 AM

I recommend taking your bike out to a train track that has a paved sloped crossing near it. Try and ride over at 90, try and ride in and out while going towards the crossing, etc.
Just practice with that crossing coming up, so that if you can't get out at less than 90 degrees, you have an easy way out coming right up...

And just remember, when in doubt, throttle out.... :lol3

DSM8 06-26-2013 08:50 AM

I have opften thought about this with the big bikes, a pair of these slightly modified would make it easy to get over tracks in worse case scenarios.

Might have to get a pair and do a little playing with the Mig to see what I can come up with.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-piece...cks-97130.html

hscrugby 06-26-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM8 (Post 21730926)
I have opften thought about this with the big bikes, a pair of these slightly modified would make it easy to get over tracks in worse case scenarios.

Might have to get a pair and do a little playing with the Mig to see what I can come up with.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-piece...cks-97130.html

instead of carrying ramps, if you really just need to get over it, and you can't make it....

You realize that there are thousands of little things all around the tracks you can make a pile out of right? I shall call them "piles of rocks"
put a pile up to both tracks from the side you are going, easy as pie...
then the polite thing is to get rid of the pile somewhat once your done so when the train goes by it doesn't explode rocks everwhere...
I'd prefer to just use hp and speed, but worst case, like your riding a sport bike or something over them..


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