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alvincullumyork 08-15-2013 05:14 PM

Protocol for getting pulled over
 
I have yet to be pulled over on my bike but it's going to happen probably sooner rather than later:evil. What do is the best way to handle the situation? In the car I pull over, roll down the windows, put on the flashers, take the keys out of the ignition and leave my hands on the steering wheel.

On a bike do you take your helmet off? Keys out? What's your routine?

32x20 08-15-2013 05:20 PM

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I've never been pulled on the bike, either (yet?), but I figure kill it, helmet and gloves off and wait...

Celtic Curmudgeon 08-15-2013 05:28 PM

Taking your helmet off is a good move especially if you have gray hair. Stay on the bike with the kickstand up until instructed otherwise. You don't have to grovel, but OTOH, being a dick isn't a great idea. More good info here...

http://voices.yahoo.com/a-cops-guide...99.html?cat=27

slackjaw 08-15-2013 05:33 PM

Just sit there quietly. Bike in gear, one hand on the clutch, one hand on the throttle, and a big shit eatin' grinn on your face, 'cause the day is about to get interesting.:ricky

kbasa 08-15-2013 05:37 PM

I take my helmet off, gloves off and put my hands on the saddlebags so he can see them as he walks up. If Tina's with me, I have her put her hands on my shoulders so he can see them. Stay on the bike until instructed to get off, motor off, sidestand down, feet on the ground.

If I have to reach in my pocket for my license, I tell him that I"m going to reach in my pocket for my license and tell him which pocket it's in. If I need to produce my registration, I say "It's in the glove compartment over here (pointing), so I'm going to get it out"

I want him to feel safe, which gets things off to a far better start.

When they ask me how I'm doing, I always reply with a laugh, "I was doing a whole lot better a few minutes ago." :lol3

k5mitch 08-15-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alvincullumyork (Post 22110462)
I have yet to be pulled over on my bike but it's going to happen probably sooner rather than later:evil.


Don't ask me no questions and I won't tell you no lies :deal


(don't do things that would get one pulled over, then you don't have to worry about it)

Motomedic 08-15-2013 06:23 PM

Some Officers will want you off the bike, other will ask you to stay on, some will want you to remove your helmet, others not. I use a trick I heard about a while back. I usually remove my helmet, and as he's walking up to me (I make it a point to wait for this moment) I bend down and place the helmet on the ground near my back tire. Without being obvious, this places me in a subservient position. I don't know if the psychology works but I feel it does.


Universal rules: DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING. If asked "How fast were you going?" I usually reply "that depends on where you clocked me" or something else similarly non-committal. :evil

Attitude goes a long way. The comment about "doing better a few minutes ago" with a laugh is a good start. Remember, most of 'em are just doing their job.

Telling the officer where stuff is before reaching for it is good. After all, they're nervous too. Many officers have been hurt/killed during routine traffic stops.

And no, you cannot search my vehicle. Period. 4th amendment and all that. Get a warrant. I never carry anything I need to worry about, but that doesn't change the law.

JimVonBaden 08-15-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtic Curmudgeon (Post 22110550)
Taking your helmet off is a good move especially if you have gray hair. Stay on the bike with the kickstand up until instructed otherwise. You don't have to grovel, but OTOH, being a dick isn't a great idea. More good info here...

http://voices.yahoo.com/a-cops-guide...99.html?cat=27

Good advice!

Jim :brow

eakins 08-15-2013 08:09 PM

It's just a power trip and safety issue for the officer.

Don't admit to speeding, but say sorry & I was having fun and hang your head down like you screwed up. You got caught so you did. Show respect and you'll get it back. He/she is in the drivers seat.

Helmet off, paperwork out, hands in sight. Cops don't want to get shot.

1st ease the officer's mind you are not a criminal with intent.
2nd play the psychology that they are in charge.
3rd accept what comes from that.

eakins 08-15-2013 08:15 PM

I would say bending down to put your helmet is not a good idea.
It's all about where your hands are and where a potential weapon could be.
You doing this could be a move to pull a weapon out. Your hands and eyes disappear to the officer and that is their biggest fear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motomedic (Post 22110965)
Some Officers will want you off the bike, other will ask you to stay on, some will want you to remove your helmet, others not. I use a trick I heard about a while back. I usually remove my helmet, and as he's walking up to me (I make it a point to wait for this moment) I bend down and place the helmet on the ground near my back tire. Without being obvious, this places me in a subservient position. I don't know if the psychology works but I feel it does.


Universal rules: DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING. If asked "How fast were you going?" I usually reply "that depends on where you clocked me" or something else similarly non-committal. :evil

Attitude goes a long way. The comment about "doing better a few minutes ago" with a laugh is a good start. Remember, most of 'em are just doing their job.

Telling the officer where stuff is before reaching for it is good. After all, they're nervous too. Many officers have been hurt/killed during routine traffic stops.

And no, you cannot search my vehicle. Period. 4th amendment and all that. Get a warrant. I never carry anything I need to worry about, but that doesn't change the law.


Motomedic 08-15-2013 09:11 PM

I'm not sure you understand what I said.

How are my hands not visible? He's walking toward me, my hands are both full of helmet (as I'm holding said helmet with a hand on either side). I bend down and place the helmet on the ground. I then stand back up, with my hands empty.

And, I quote you: "play the psychology that they are in charge". What the fuck do you think bowing down in front of someone does?

ThumperStorm 08-15-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motomedic (Post 22111947)
I'm not sure you understand what I said.

How are my hands not visible? He's walking toward me, my hands are both full of helmet (as I'm holding said helmet with a hand on either side). I bend down and place the helmet on the ground. I then stand back up, with my hands empty.

And, I quote you: "play the psychology that they are in charge". What the fuck do you think bowing down in front of someone does?

Do you get off the bike? You must if you are able to put your helmet on the ground with Both hands. (ankle holsters anyone?)

I think it is best to just sit there with the motorcycle shut off until they walk up to you. Then they will let you know about taking off your helmet, or getting off the bike, or whatever else.

They are suspicious and are watching what you do. By not doing anything without them telling you first, well what better way to show that they are in charge?

I have been pulled over before and it works for me. YMMV

ThumperStorm 08-15-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k5mitch (Post 22110646)
Don't ask me no questions and I won't tell you no lies :deal


(don't do things that would get one pulled over, then you don't have to worry about it)

It must be so nice to live in your perfect world! :clap

You forget about the profiling all us bada$$ bikers suffer. :rofl

VEGASGSA 08-15-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtic Curmudgeon (Post 22110550)
Taking your helmet off is a good move especially if you have gray hair. Stay on the bike with the kickstand up until instructed otherwise. You don't have to grovel, but OTOH, being a dick isn't a great idea. More good info here...

http://voices.yahoo.com/a-cops-guide...99.html?cat=27

I have yet to get a ticket on the bike...one of those stops, was for twice the legal limit...in a 55...when I pulled my helmet off as the cop was screaming at me..he kinda calmed down, then started laughing...told us where the next speed zone was and left..

Gray hair works..

VEGASGSA 08-15-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbasa (Post 22110618)
When they ask me how I'm doing, I always reply with a laugh, "I was doing a whole lot better a few minutes ago." :lol3

"Well, that all depends on the next 5 minutes"

:deal


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