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wyobohunter 08-24-2013 04:17 PM

I want.... No, I need a bigger bike!
 
I have to travel for work pretty frequently. 230 miles to one location and 280 miles to another. I can either drive my work truck or take my own vehicle (company pays 51 cents per mile if I use my own). So I figured I'd try out my little WR250R just for kicks.
I learned two things very quickly:

1-That seat sucks for any real mileage.
2-The little 250 gets too hot when hauling my fat ass up a steep grade at 90F and nearly 7,000' elevation.

So I've put the Polaris ranger on Craigslist and will dump that money into a bigger bike. I'm most interested in a new F800GS, I think I want the adventure.

My question is, there are no dealerships in the area. How hard is the maintenance on one of these? What engine oil and filter do you use? What else should I be prepared for?

runnin4melife 08-24-2013 04:34 PM

I have never had a dealer do any maintenance on my bike, and most of us on here have not either. The GSA may be an option or just a GS, or even a nicely used GS. Honestly they are one of the most forgiving bikes I have dealt with but they have quirks, none of which are horrible.

wyobohunter 08-24-2013 04:51 PM

What motor oil and filter? There is a KTM dealership here. I stopped in see if they'd have a good motor oil for my WR. Only stuff they had was some racing oil that (according to the service counter guy) you have to use in a KTM. $20 for a quart!

Just want to avoid buying anything that cost me a million bucks to maintain.

I do want something I can explore the desert, mountains and highways with. The BMW seems to fit the bill but I want to be sure the maintenance isn't more of a pain/more expensive than the average ride.

I read in another post (paraphrasing)
"Why would you spend the extra money on a BMW and then be too cheap to pay for professional servicing?".

My answer would be "Because I don't pay others to do what I can do myself... If general maintenance is problematic (havin to take things apart just to do simple/routine maintenance like an oil change) I'll pass on the bike.

I'd be willing to remove things I put on aftermarket (skid plate) but if I have to strip it down... No thanks

beeper 08-24-2013 05:39 PM

I use Shell Rotella diesel oil 15w-40 and a Wix filter as both are easily found locally. Nearest BMW dealer is 2 hours away. I commute with mine daily. Maintenance is easy, valve adjust can be a bit involved but with 12000 mile intervals not a big deal.

duffs 08-24-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyobohunter (Post 22173627)
What motor oil and filter? There is a KTM dealership here. I stopped in see if they'd have a good motor oil for my WR. Only stuff they had was some racing oil that (according to the service counter guy) you have to use in a KTM. $20 for a quart!

From the handbook:

Engine oil, capacity: 3.1 quarts (2.9 l), with filter change
Recommended oil: BMW Motorrad High Performance Oil SAE 15W-50, API SJ / JASO MA2
Oil additives: BMW Motorrad does not recommend using oil additives, as these can worsen the operation of the clutch. Ask your BMW Motorrad retailer for engine oils suitable for your motorcycle.

Or Castrol at the same spec above.

With oil I've always been fine on the manufacturers' suggested brands, motorbikes can be sensitive regarding clutch operation etc. Remember the saying 'buy cheap buy twice'. Although Castrol is not particularly expensive, certainly less than $20/litre.

You can order an OEM oil filter online from a dealer, it's about $14 - example

I have all servicing done by my BMW dealership as I live in the middle of London and have no facilities to do my own. For the record, the F800GS costs half for servicing compared to what Honda used to charge for my previous bike.

wyobohunter 08-24-2013 07:18 PM

Doesn't sound bad. Thanks to all for the advice.

Full Power 08-24-2013 11:24 PM

I ride an F800, and live on the Kenai Peninsula.
Don't let the proximity of dealership bother you any.
Things like tires, drive chain, sprockets, oil filters, etc are easy enough to source.
The F800 will tote you around Alaska with no problem.
Mine gets 56 miles per gallon on the paved roads, and 60 to 64 MPG on gravel.
.
Valvoline markets Motorcycle rated oils, you can get them at NAPA, CARQUEST, Oreilleys, etc.
The nice people that sell you the bike will be happy to sell you a sack full of oil filters.
If you need to read trouble codes, stop down to Homer.... GS911 is usually close at hand.

Loutre 08-25-2013 03:46 AM

it's one of the easiest bikes to maintain. Oil etc is changed in 20min tops and you can buy oilfilters for 11 of the internet. I did put a permanent airfilter in and off you go. Even if stator, clutch or something fails it's really easy to fix it yourself. I put 10w-40 oil in it. 21 for 4 liters. I've put 34000kms on it since june 2012 and love it each day a bit more. :o)

wyobohunter 08-25-2013 05:43 AM

Oops, guess I should update my profile. My company sold all of our stuff in Alaska and transferred me to Wyoming.

ultane 08-25-2013 03:04 PM

You will love the F800GS in Wyoming.... probably love the F800GS Adventure even more...


I might be wrong... Just ask my X...

If a man speaks, and no woman is present to here him,..
Is he STILL wrong?

wyobohunter 08-25-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultane (Post 22179203)
You will love the F800GS in Wyoming.... probably love the F800GS Adventure even more...


I think so too :-)

Convinced the wife I need one (and promised to install a lowering kit on the WR250R for her). Just gotta come up with the money... Anyone want to by a Polaris Ranger Crew?

wyobohunter 08-30-2013 09:06 AM

Well, the Ranger gets a new home tomorrow. Now it's crunch time on picking between the standard and adventure versions.

-I'd say most of my time is spent on dirt/gravel (50-60%).
-I'll be taking the occasional 560 mile round trip (probably 5-6 per summer for work).
-I spend a bit of time on easier single track type stuff on my current ride an will likely continue to do so on the new ride if possible.

I really don't want to do a bunch of add on stuff, I'd like the extra range of the Adventure and I'm leaning toward that but.

Are the extras worth the money?
Will the additional weight be noticeable on single track?

Metalsapo 08-30-2013 10:54 AM

Get it used, any 800 cc BMW is way better than a car, jajajajjajaja, and just have in mind that is a heavy bike, and also with time you will be investing in comfort, wind shield, pegs, luggage, electronics, and going farther and farther.

chris73 08-30-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyobohunter (Post 22217556)
Well, the Ranger gets a new home tomorrow. Now it's crunch time on picking between the standard and adventure versions.

-I'd say most of my time is spent on dirt/gravel (50-60%).
-I'll be taking the occasional 560 mile round trip (probably 5-6 per summer for work).
-I spend a bit of time on easier single track type stuff on my current ride an will likely continue to do so on the new ride if possible.

I really don't want to do a bunch of add on stuff, I'd like the extra range of the Adventure and I'm leaning toward that but.

Are the extras worth the money?
Will the additional weight be noticeable on single track?

I bought the f800 because it was the lightest adventure bike I could two up. I also wanted to off road and gravel ride. To me, if you are going single track I would get the f800 over the gsa. Must have add ons for your riding would be skid plate and probably crash bars. Plastic is expensive. I wish I would have bought a better pannier rack to protect the rear during a get off. I have vario racks and a nice dent on my muffler and scratches on the tank. The tank hasn't cracked yet.

wyobohunter 08-30-2013 04:26 PM

I'm buying new...

I'm going to look at the dealer Tuesday, they have one GSA and several GS.

After talking to the salesman a bit he has me leaning toward the standard GS because of most of the riding I do. I'll see then.

Thanks all


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