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Pete640 10-17-2013 03:54 AM

990 Not gone just yet.......
 
I have heard from a very reliable source that the 990 Adv platform bike isnt dead and buried just yet. Skunkworks info is that it (a seriously updated version) will make an appearance at the milan bike show next year (2014).
Seems KTM wanted to update it but not clash with the 1190 release.

Rumor or just the cold hard facts.....:ear Which do you prefer to believe??

Sumi 10-17-2013 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete640 (Post 22571698)
I have heard from a very reliable source that the 990 Adv platform bike isnt dead and buried just yet. Skunkworks info is that it (a seriously updated version) will make an appearance at the milan bike show next year (2014).
Seems KTM wanted to update it but not clash with the 1190 release.

Rumor or just the cold hard facts.....:ear Which do you prefer to believe??

Rumor IMO. Just as the smaller displacement ADV bike..

Gustavo.Ramos 10-17-2013 04:22 AM

Two bikes closely related to the same segment?

More inclined to lower displacement engine to meet the 800 range. there's a big gap between the 690 and the 1190

Or maybe they revamp the 990 engine and make it better fuel efficient!

Orangecicle 10-17-2013 05:04 AM

IMHO, KTM needs something between the 690R and the 1190. I'm not interested in the 1190. Anything over 999cc bumps up against my life insurance policy limitations. :lol3 But a 750-800cc that is light . . . that has Dakar styling . . . . Hmmmmmm.

guyfawkes 10-17-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustavo.Ramos (Post 22571806)
Or maybe they revamp the 990 engine and make it better fuel efficient!

if they wanna keep that engine they will have to. consumption of the 990 always was a bit of a joke compared to similar bikes ...

rossguzzi 10-17-2013 05:59 AM

The more I think of it ..... a v twin 550 2 stroke Adventure bike would be awesome. Aprilia had a gorgeous 550 but a virtuall race motor. Now days 2 strokes can be quite torquey. Think less weight, no valves etc......... Changing rings no big deal.
I recon it would be a HOOT !

spencergt66 10-17-2013 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumi (Post 22571760)
Rumor IMO. Just as the smaller displacement ADV bike..


+1 I for one would like to see the smaller twin but I don think that would be happening anytime soon People want it and hope for it so much they will believe anything they hear that sounds good:cry

ADVill 10-17-2013 07:00 AM

Sleeve the 990 down to an 800? Of course you have the weight factor but easily enough achieved?

spencergt66 10-17-2013 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ADVill (Post 22572678)
Sleeve the 990 down to an 800? Of course you have the weight factor but easily enough achieved?

Hmmmmm:huh Sleve it down throw it in a 690 Chassis with an ADV fearing done...:D

Two Moto Kiwis 10-17-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ADVill (Post 22572678)
Sleeve the 990 down to an 800? Of course you have the weight factor but easily enough achieved?

They should do what triumph did and take the smaller motor and bring it up.....re xc800 using 675 block, ktm will have to come up with something of course but doable

99% of the market want flash and gadgets, we harder adver types are the minority hence they are catering for the main market

You already see threads on how to lose weight on an 1190, simple, dont buy a big bike

Katoom72 10-17-2013 07:38 AM

KTM builds what the market wants. High-end technology and big HP numbers, that's what is selling these days.

Gustavo.Ramos 10-17-2013 08:33 AM

Whats the point of sleeving it down to 800?

Weight is still there. Developing a newer engine is very expensive, take a bulletproof one (well, fix the waterpump only one seal issue), remap it, change the cam profile to be smoother and fuel efficient, maybe adapt a multi management mode to be possible to select different types of performance.

Framewise there are already good options, maybe reduce some weight.

Dunno about tax issues, but 800cc locally is taxed exactly as 999cc's.

pdxmotorhead 10-17-2013 08:43 AM

Lighten the castings and destroke it to 755,, so it can spin about 14K. :pimp

Rifle drill the cams,, lighten up the valve and cam drive assemlies..
rework the waterpump to similar to the 1190.

Make it a hybrid of the 690 ADV style plastics and the SE.
Make the Windscreen and upper half of the front
Aero removable with a couple pins. So it can switch from ADV to SE style.

Put a real fully welded skid plate on out of the box.

Offer a Christini up-grade..

:freaky

Dave

Sumi 10-17-2013 10:57 AM

Or they could just simply sell the 450RR or the 690RR for $5000 :D

DesertSurfer 10-17-2013 11:35 AM

Here's an idea...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete640 (Post 22571698)
I have heard from a very reliable source that the 990 Adv platform bike isnt dead and buried just yet. Skunkworks info is that it (a seriously updated version) will make an appearance at the milan bike show next year (2014).
Seems KTM wanted to update it but not clash with the 1190 release.

Rumor or just the cold hard facts.....:ear Which do you prefer to believe??

They could release a limited edition LC8 Adventure SE called the 790 Adventure SE ( so what it's a 990). Make it the best of the SE with a functioning Rally Fairing. They could lighten it up to get it below 400lbs., say 390 lbs. Give it a skidplate, larger split tanks with quick release hardware... on everything. Quick release on the plastic, axels, panels. And add the PDS rear adjustable suspension. Lighter/ stronger swingarm. Lighten up some internals.. Stealth out the known issues.

Strengthen subframe...

And make a DECENT seat.

Let KTM use this opportunity to develop a nice lighter, stronger chassis for a possible future sub 800cc bike.

But for now, make this pseudo "790" Adventure Super Rally the ultimate "SHIT" in a twin adventure bike. And nickname it the "Africa Twin Killer".


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