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Dark 09-02-2005 01:38 PM

Had to plug a tire today
 
I’m not anal about much, one of the things I am anal about is air pressure in my tires.
Moto, car, trailer, whatever….if it is between me or a loved one & the pavement I’m anal.
So on a pre ride tire pressure check I noticed I was down about 10 PSI.

WTF?

I take a look & sure enough foreign object. :eek1
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431648-M.jpg

So, open the tool kit get the plug repair tools & material & go to work
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431651-M.jpg

Out with the foreign object, in this case a 1.5 “ screw
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431654-M.jpg
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431655-M-1.jpg

Clean the hole
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431656-M.jpg
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431660-M.jpg

Insert plug
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431661-M.jpg

Trim plug
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431663-M.jpg

Done - 15 minutes including picture taking time
http://seapoet.smugmug.com/photos/34431644-M.jpg



So, how long can these 880’s last with a plug?
I figure I got 6-8K of tread left on them.
Can I ride em out of tread with a plug in them?
I don’t ride that hard & rarely see triple digit speed.
Mostly highway speeds of 70-80. Occasional gravel.

SteveAZ 09-02-2005 02:29 PM

I've heard some people say "don't worry 'bout it, it'll do fine with the plug."

I've heard other people say "the tire is a no go now, must replace. Very dangerous."


Me, I'm more towards the former. If I thought I had 6-8K miles left on the tire, I would likely trim the plug on the inside of the tire and put a patch over it on the inside. OTOH if I thought I had 1Kmi left I would simply take the attitude "don't worry 'bout it, it'll do fine with the plug." In fact, this is what I've done on both cars and motos.

But that's just me....

G-Force Junkie 09-02-2005 06:58 PM

Thats a lot of miles to run on a plug. I would at least have a shop pull the tire and install an umbrella plug/patch and remount the tire. Shouldnt be more than $50 if you bring the wheel in off the bike.

Rad 09-02-2005 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie
Shouldnt be more than $50 if you bring the wheel in off the bike.

You won't find a regular bike shop that will do that in the US.

Ride it, watch it, check the pressure a lot. The worst that should happen is ya get a slow leak. I ran mine a few thousand miles before I replaced my tire.

Loadedagain 09-02-2005 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rad
You won't find a regular bike shop that will do that in the US.

really? do it all the time up here... worked in a tyre shop as a student. we did patches all the time. just had one done on my jetta a couple months ago when i picked up a nail. $30 cdn including taking the wheel off my car.

Lone Rider 09-02-2005 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Force Junkie
Thats a lot of miles to run on a plug. I would at least have a shop pull the tire and install an umbrella plug/patch and remount the tire. Shouldnt be more than $50 if you bring the wheel in off the bike.

What Rad said.........

You can always have the tire dismounted and patch it from the inside yourself. Done properly, it should last until the tread is gone.

HarveyMushman 09-02-2005 08:02 PM

Hey, Mike! :wave

You change your own tires, right? Like others have said, take this one off and put an "umbrella" patch on the inside and keep and eye on the pressure. It should be fine for the life of the tire. I ran a rear Tourance for ~7k miles like this with no problems.

Rad 09-02-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loadedagain
really? do it all the time up here... worked in a tyre shop as a student. we did patches all the time. just had one done on my jetta a couple months ago when i picked up a nail. $30 cdn including taking the wheel off my car.

You can get a car tire patched at any tire place or most gas stations. You will be hard pressed to find a bike shop that will patch a motorcycle tire in the states. A small independent shop may do it.

gaspipe 09-02-2005 09:35 PM

I plug 'em and ride. Did one today. I'd surely be happier riding a plugged tubeless tire than a patched tube.

:dunno

matkal 09-02-2005 09:35 PM

After reviewing your pics I think you should have used a word other than anal to describe yourself:lol3

Loadedagain 09-02-2005 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matkal
After reviewing your pics I think you should have used a word other than anal to describe yourself:lol3

it's not like he's plugging his ass... it's only a tyre.

Waco 09-02-2005 10:27 PM

Get a Best Rest Cycle Pump or something equivalent if you don't have one already. I had a plugged hole once that would start leaking again after several hundred miles. If you have a pump with you, replugging the tire in a parking lot is hardly even an inconvenience.

SteveAZ 09-03-2005 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rad
...Ride it, watch it, check the pressure a lot. The worst that should happen is ya get a slow leak....

Quote:

...I had a plugged hole once that would start leaking again after several hundred miles....
This is why if I thought I had more than a month's worth of miles left on the tire, I'm happy simply putting a flat patch over the trimmed plug on the inside. Very easy to do (don't even need to completely remove the tire) and patches are available anywhere.

Funny, but even the way message boards have a way of "amplifying" improbable events, I never hear of any tires that are simply plugged suddenly losing air or other "catastrophic" failure on any boards I've been on.

Hard for me to understand the paranoia about plugs.

DOD 09-03-2005 09:33 AM

I had a plugged tire on my pickup explode. Probably because of loss of pressure while I was driving. It happened about 20 miles after I left the shop. For autos; no good tire shop will plug a tire. Automobile tire manufacturers definitely recommend against it.

After plugging a tire, the GS manual recommends a reduced maximum speed (pretty slow) and tire replacement.

Just remember that all of the control forces are transmitted through the tire/road interface.

I agree that if you are careful, the failure is a low probability event and many people have used plugs successfully. The possibility of tire failure is, however, significantly increased. If I can eliminate a risk for a few hundred bucks, I'll do it.

The difficult part of safety is that you don't get any extra, you just get to keep what you have.

tbirdsp 09-03-2005 11:45 AM

I ran a plugged Bridgestone Exedra on my ST1100 for 4000 miles, no problems.
Would do it again.


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