ok the so that was recieved well
I am actually glad to see so much feed back, discussion, and comments from my post
all made with very good pionts.
I have always live by a rule that best agruement wins.
that, with concensus that it is obviously what the majority wants
that being said
looks like I will be buying a new GPS and will be learning how to down load routes.
then there is the whole camping thing
I figur something out
for the record I can't wait until it is time again