good call John, will sit on both and see what the difference is and feel. A bit of history from me, I owned a XR650L so I know how it feels picking up a pig! I've taken the XR in some NJ sand and also PA's muddy rocky terrain. Of course w/ my luck it got stolen from me and I will probably never see it again. I currently have a DR250 so if I really want to hit it hard in the dirt I'll take that one out. I also own a Triumph bonneville which I've been trying to transform it to a dual sport monster. The bad thing is, I feel I'm creating frankenstein. I've owned it new from 2001 and it's probably seen all kinds of roads and even some track time
. I just think it's time for me to move on from the retro cool to a more suitable off road/on road motorcycle. I like the tall seat height of the Sertao, as my knees are not the same anymore
. Of course the deciding factor is the price, as my budget cant go any higher to justify a BMW 800 or a Triumph XC.