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Old 06-22-2012, 05:26 PM   #34
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yes a little over $6 a bottle is the correct price for a POA (type 4 synth) automotive labled bottle (Mobil 1 being the baseline at approx the same price) and for sure cheaper than other MC specific POA sell for. most all MC specific oil is way over-priced to start with with, not to mention the bogus hydro-cracked type 3 many companies pass off for synthetic. $6 comes in much better than the well used and respected Amsoil and they have varied qualities of synth depending on the oil. of course POA doesn't hold weight to top shelf Ester-based Type 5 synth, but works very well below race levels of performance and you're not paying $10+ qt for it. Only a few are true Type 5 such as Redline, certain Motuls and Maximas.

like i said before make 10w-40 and they'll sell boat loads of cases!

Originally Posted by East Coast Rider View Post
Thanks, Aimhi!

My main reason for asking about the MSDS is purely from an oil formulation standpoint. The bulk of manufacturers play fast and loose with the phrase "full synthetic" yet their oils are for the most part, Hydro-cracked conventional oils (termed "severely refined" on the MSDS) , and have some synthetic additive package. I'm not accusing Monarch of any trickery, I just thought it odd that they didn't have a valid link to a PDF of the MSDS on the site, that's all. I'd be curious about the oil's TBN, as well....I geuss mostly because I'm a bit of a nerd

Are the Monarch oils true PAO synthetics? Given the price, it would be a great bargain if they were!! I'd love to try it in my KLR, or my 80K mile, 30 years old Suzuki GS1100EZ, for that matter.

All that said, I'd love a look see at the MSDS if possible.
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