I'll go anywhere the group wants to meet. But as a guy that made the move to ride out of my back yard (hence the theme of this thread) I don't wanna make the desert dwellers drive OUT of the desert to meet those that have to commute anyway... and then ride pavement to trails. The point of living here is NOT to have to commute... and then ride pavement back to trails.
If you live in Long Beach or Anaheim another 15-30 minutes aint gonna kill you.
Just food for thought... I'll meet you guys whereever Mutt decides.