Originally Posted by maigashi
C-stain. After review of your picture I believe I have found the cause of our difference of opinion. I would agree the terrain you show there would be fine with the shinko. Not ideal but fine. My idea of off road is somewhat more treacherous. A lot of quad trail and single track. Gravel hills and whooped out sand trails. Not to disrespect that terrain, loads of fun. But that looks mostly like what takes me to my trails.
As for the man who says ride over the front end, is that right? I was always told to throttle up and lean back to get the weight off the front end and ride it through
IMHO - you need a bike that's not an F800. I'll admit, my pics show what is fairly even level, gravel terrain. It does get a little bit more gnarly, with some small baby heads and stuff. And I've ridden both my Vee and my F800 through it. However, if you're looking for a bike to do technical single track and quad trails, you'd probably be better off with an G450X for something...