Originally Posted by farmerstu
i think i'll let someone else drop the hammer on this nonsense!
Originally Posted by Racer111v
On pavement I could probably due a large radius turn at 20 mph plus without counter steering .I can probably trail ride all day without counter steering to initiate a turn. .
I would very much like to see that. Can I take pictures of you when you fall down?
If you are riding straight and then start your "large radius turn at 20 mph" A counter-steer takes place or you would fall down every time.
You may not push or pull on the bar but a counter-steer takes place.
(you could take both hands off the bar and shift your weight to initiate but it a counter-steer is still taking place EVERY time)