Originally Posted by Jedl
I tried several times to post a response that didn't sound condescending. Each attempt failed. So rather than try to explain the dynamics of how a bike initiates a turn I'll point out that both of your examples describe the front wheel while the bike is turning (after the initiation is complete). Your observations are true for all bikes - trials, MX, street & push - while they are already in the turn. Counter-steering is about moving the COG in order to initiate, end or modify a turn.
Perhaps you could explain how the laws of physics are different for you while on a trials bike or MX'er?
I will readily admit that I am certainly not a physicist.