Originally Posted by icebergstu
Not a good idea mate.
1 - it will vibrate the crap out of your navman and fk it up
2 - it wont have a decent clamp system so again it will be sht
3 - with the sun shining you wont be able to see the crap screen and with your eyesight...
4 - if you find some cool roads and spots you wont be able to mark or waypoint them and with your memory...
5 - it wont tell you when a good time to go fishing is
6 - it wont mark your track so you have to remember where you have been and with your memory...
There are a million good reasons not to cut corners and get the cheapest option.
DEMONSURA - Montana has heaps of features Oregen doesnt for instance PROFILES and many more.
600 650 or 650t are the ducks nuts mate and made for ADV riding.
Everything else you've said is right Stu in terms of reasons not to use a car GPS - they're just not designed for it. You may as well strap a compass to the bars. However - I don't agree on the 'many more features' part. The Oregon has profiles, and everything I can see in the specs for the Montana except a camera, although the Oregon still has a picture viewer. Mine is the 450T version though (which just means it came with topo maps preloaded). Both have 'trans-reflective' colour touchscreen, auto night mode, and all the other little bells and whistles with some minor differences. Oregon has slightly less built in memory (although they both support microSD, I have a 16GB card in mine to store maps so this is a moot point), 200 waypoints compared to 4000 with the Montana 650 (although again, with a microSD card in there this is a moot point). Oregon has Tide tables and 'good fishing days' app built in, Montana is 'optional with Bluechart' which is a marine map to have to purchase. Both have the same battery life of 16 hours.Both have a nice accurate 3 axis compass and the ability to use the compass for either directional (travel in general direction with on the go auto corrections) or turn by turn navigation with auto correct - so you can either follow a set track, or you can give a destination and 'aim' for it offroad or tell it to navigate 'on-road'. On my Oregon, I can tell it to re-navigate onroad in the middle of an offroad track and it will backtrack automatically to the point where it has mapped roads on file and then take over. Both have altimeter with barometric pressure. Montana APPEARS to have a bigger screen and the unit itself is somewhat bigger and weighs more - HOWEVER - the screen sizes are deceiving - according to Garmin's own specs the resolutions are the same but the Oregon's screen is actually bigger than the Montana's by about 1/2" in both directions. Go figure. Both have wireless file transfer, both are garmin connect compatible and both are 'Adventure downloadable' with the latest firmware. Like I said Stu, I don't see any features that would make it worth spending the extra, and the screen is no bigger so there goes that poor eyesight justification. If you can't see the screen, hit the zoom button. The oregon is also just small enough to tuck in a pocket for a walk as I do when we go to National Parks or when I'm on one of the trials courses to mark good photo spots, (or hang on the supplied carabiner on your belt). The Montana not so much. You can turn the Montana on it's side to 'landscape' mode. Not on the Oregon. The Montana has a flashlight.....not the Oregon. And they quote 'overall software improvements' as one of the selling points. The reality is, most improvements that came with the Montana also came with the latest firmware upgrade for my Oregon. The other reality is, there's a limit to how many blades you need on a swiss army knife, if you get my drift. Most of the functions on devices like this serve more to confuse than help, so just because Garmin adds more fancy bullshit and few more display colours etc to a GPS doesn't make it necessarily better at anything...lol. You CAN get heart rate monitors for both though .......maybe not a bad idea for some of our older riders???
The fact is the Con, you got lost buddy. If you're gonna ride by yourself, you owe it you yourself and your family to make sure you get home without dramas. My GPS has already got me 'unlost' twice and saved me from running out of gas, once with ~1 litre to spare. And I can find my tracks whenever I want them :) Money well spent and I don't regret it one little bit. Oh - P.S. Oregon is available for $299 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRAND-NEW...ht_5553wt_1181
........HALF the price of the Montana http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-GARMI...102e713&_uhb=1
That's 6 tanks of gas, one and a bit tyres or about 30 visits to the bakery :lol: . Food for thought.