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Old 03-20-2013, 10:59 PM   #22
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Most of my experience in Spain has been in Andalucia, Granada, Malaga, Ronda, Algeciras, Jerez, etc... Lots of superfine mountain twisties (on pavement unfortunately) I wouldn't pass up an opportunity to give a number of those a try. If the weather proves warm enough once past Barcelona, La Mancha area south of Madrid has a number of rolling hills covered in olive orchards. South to Cordoba, then southeast towards Granada. My favourites are in a block between Granada, Almeria, Malaga, & Antequera. Top of my list are A4050 to Almunecar (on the coast) & the White Villages east of Lanjaron to Almeria. Also A397, Marbella to Ronda, then A405 to Algeciras & the ferries. Just north of Ronda is a Trogdolyte (cave dwellers) town of Setenil de las Bodegas, not to be missed. Michelin Map Europe was my choice for reading material.

Morocco (Michelin Map #742) has some superb mountain roads, both paved & off piste. From Ceuta or Tanger, I would suggest going east along the coast then south to Chefchaouen & think about N2 through Ketama & south on N8 to Fez. If going this route, DO NOT STOP in Ketama, major drug area - you WILL be hassled even while moving, but awesome roads in & out. Reminded me much of northwest Mexico & Copper Canyon. Ifrane & Azrou are into skiing areas (should be passable, but fresh). South of Azrou, there are backroads to Kenifra or Midelt where you can pick up the road into Todra Gorge. From Tinerhir you can head out to Erg Chebbi, the huge sand dunes, (2~3 days) or go an hour west to the Dades Gorge, & do the switchbacks in Betitou's posting. Going past that a couple of hours will get you through another incredible gorge up to M'smrir. I wouldn't suggest going north of there to Kasba alone, the road is quite rough & you may need help at times. Also, that would prevent you from doing the Tiza-n-Tichka pass to Marrakech. 3 times I've done it & would go again in a heartbeat. You can do a secondary route through Ait Ben Haddhou to connect near the summit though Telouet. Back on the main road just past the summit, there is a pull-over on the downhill side. You can see the road grinding around like a drunken snake below you. Great photo Op. If time permits, you can backtrack from M'Kech southwest though Azni to Tizni-n-test then back to Ouarzazate before picking a route home.

Both countries are fairly large with many small villages & ancient cities that warrant a stop now & then. You would do yourself an injustice whizzing by without a chance to sip a beverage & see the local sights. I have taken 5 visits, concentrating on a smaller area each time. Judge your daily mileage & be flexible in planning to allow this time-out now & then, plus unexpected events. My last 2 visit were unfortunately on 4 wheels, but I can always fall back on memories of riding 2 wheels there in 1970~71

Google Earth is a fantastic tool for examining terrain & routes. Use it to excess!

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More info at:
www.morocco-knowledgebase.net/forum/forum.php

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=841901

www.rocinantestravels.com/spain/index.htm
I'm also on Rocinantes' page on British Columbia http://www.rocinantestravels.com/pan...Montana-BC.htm
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