[QUOTE=Oso Blanco;21393124]Zega racks with Pelicans is my suggestion if you're looking at hard cases. Lots of options for soft luggage too but I can't comment as I haven't run any of them.
Shipping weight won't be what determines the shipping costs. The box will will be bigger than it will be heavy so you get charged "DIM weight" or "dimensional weight". Courier companies "cube" packages when that happens. I know this because I used to work for FedEx.
I don't have a box size or weight for you yet.
So is this what you mean...
... i kinda like the silver box' type panniers better than the pilicans. Do you have any other recommendations that will still easily be able to be fitted. Thanks for all your help :)