View Single Post
Old 06-28-2013, 11:11 AM   #61
Studly Adventurer
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Wasatch Mtns, UT
Oddometer: 936
Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
Your a bit of Troll arent you? Riders CAN control risks by not behaving in the manner of the riders most likely to be wiped out by a car.
No, I am not a troll. I was just pointing out that calling statistics useless lies, pretending they don't exist or rationalizing that they don't apply to oneself is rather callow.

I never stated that riders cannot manage (I don't think control is a good word here) the risks associated with motorcycling and behave in ways that lessen them. In fact, I state quite the opposite. "I am happy to have [statistical information], because it allows me to assess the risks and act in ways to eliminate or minimize them." Also, in my first post I actually enumerate several risk reduction strategies.

It seems as if you did not even read my post completely before replying to it.

Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
Its a fact not a superstition that Motorbikes have always attracted thrill seekers and non conformists,some of them are 100% Darwin candidates and they show up in statistics.
Again, I never indicated that it was mere superstition that motos attract thrill seekers. OTH, to imply that only the foolish end up in serious accidents and thus become part of accident statistics is simply naive. Any review of face plant, motorcycle accident reporting or making a serious investigation into the stats will reveal that it is quite common for experienced, well trained motorcyclists to be seriously injured of killed in accidents that involve no fault of their own.

Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
For instance I rode to Alasaka and back on a BMW,the only exciting moment on the road was caused by an idiot who talked his way into going along with us. I kept safe distance from cars,didnt ride too fast,just kept moving along.

But there were MANY chances to put myself in harm's way,I just didnt take them. Those that do,end up in statistics.
While it's good to hear that you ride carefully, your anecdotal story has nothing to do with what is plainly evident in the statistics and your insinuation that because you ride carefully, only others risk serious accident is pretending to be oblivious of the facts.

Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
As far as getting randomly wiped out by an oncoming car,that can happen in a convertible or any motor vehicle,the slaughter on the hiways continues despite the many layers of padding and straps put into a modern car.
This is very true, although I hope you are not implying that I am not the one who stated that I bought a convertible to reduce my exposure to the risks of motorcycling, I am not. That said, any review of accident injury stats will reveal that the likelihood of serious injury or death in and accident is much lower for seat belted drivers in modern cars than it is for motorbikers.

Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
Humans are healthier when they have some risk in their lives....
And 'how do you know this?', probably because you read it in an article quoting a statistical study.

Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
There is 0 guarantee that any of us will be here tomorrow,despite what the ins companies sell you all your life long,you or I can be gone in an instant just walking along and WHAM! Your all gone.

Best enjoy it while you can.
I engage in many "risky" activities (whitewater kayaking, backcountry skiing, mountaineering, motorbiking in developing countries...etc.), but I certainly don't ignore the risks of such activities or pretend that the risks/statistics don't apply to me. To do so would be simply ignorant.

To be purposely nescient does nothing to improve the quality of one's life.
Indian Himalaya:Gangotri-Shimla-Manali-Pavarti-Spiti-Leh-Kargil-Padum-Sringhar-Daramsala (3 mo.--2x)
Kazakstan-Krygyzstan-Tajikistan-Xin Xiang to Lhasa, Tibet on China 219!-Nepal (7 months)
Santiago, Chile to Ushuia Argentina and up to Cusco, Peru (7 months)
Peruvian Andes (3 months)
N Chile - Medellin, Colombia (3 months) Cartegena, CO to N Chile (3 months)

glasswave screwed with this post 07-04-2013 at 05:05 PM
glasswave is offline   Reply With Quote