Originally Posted by hippiebrian
I just have a hard time with people who teach new people how to ride filling their head with unnecessary information. There is enough for a new person to concentrate on when they are out there riding and practicing. Adding more information than necessary makes it not only more confusing and difficult but potentially more dangerous. Countersteering is a "nice to know" for those who have been riding for a while just to learn the physics, but unnecessary for a new rider.
Counter-steering is more necessary for higher speeds, when turning a bike requires real force (some GP racers have bent handlebars); a realm very far from a new rider while riding like a new rider should.
Maybe we should teach a person to ride in simple terms with the caveat of later returning to us to learn counter-steering
, before he/she becomes over-confident and stupid and tries negotiating that curve "riding faster than his ability and experience were prepared for"
Originally Posted by PFFOG
OK here is something for both sides to argue about.
Thais is an excerpt from Motorcycle Handling and Chassis Design the art and science, by Tony Foale Considered the Bible of motorcycle dynamics by many.
...............When learning most of us initially wobble about out of control until our sub-conscious latches
on to the fact that counter-steering and counter-leaning is the way to do it. Once the brain has switched
into reverse gear, it becomes instinctive and is usually with us for life, and we can return to riding after a
long layoff with no need to re-learn the art of balancing or steering.
................. However, humans adapt quickly and the correct technique soon becomes