Well tks to you all. Good point that I didn't state in the first post. I ride in NV and UT mostly on FS roads I don't do very much of the trail stuff at all. Too old and too slow. Out in NV you have to have 300 range to get anywhere, that's why the RR tanks. Lots of two lane pavement with towns over 70 miles apart. The 690 is just OK as a highway bike but great off road. I am riding to AK this summer. Keep your inputs coming.