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Old 03-03-2014, 07:09 AM   #23
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Not at all. I was also merely implying that there are no heated gloves with CE certification in the market. 90% of all heated motorcycle gloves in the market have two flaws. First the technology being one that has been around since 1945. World War 2 bombers used resistive wiring in their gloves and passed an electrical current through it to generate heat. Drawbacks? High power consumption, No uniform heat and most importantly users getting burnt from hotspots (resistive wires do coil up/kink over usage and create a hot spot). The Second Flaw no real motorcycle heated gloves, lots of oven mitt based designs with no protection. We have a Motorcycle glove called the VR-Pro which has been tested by racers in the Canadian Superbike Championship and other race series but we sell a lot of these gloves to street riders who always let me know how awesome the glove is. We basically took that design with the palm sliders, Scaphoid slider, TPU knuckles and finger sliders and used in a Heated glove. The heat is Infra Red so no resistive wiring. We are actually probably the only heated motorcycle glove manufacturers that have CE certified batteries (and the slimmest).
Your normal motorcycle heated glove or just general battery heated glove has 3 layers. The Outer shell, the insulation which has resistive wiring stitched around the edges and the inner liner. So easy and cheap to manufacture and because resistive wiring uses a lot of power the power usually comes from the Bike 12V battery. In some cases those that have portable batteries mis-represent the battery life.

What we do is build a glove that is the ultimate in crash protection and has 7 layers. The outer 1 mm analine grade A Full Grain cowhide leather (treated to be waterproof), a thing insulation layer, A reflective insulation layer, a 70GSM Thinsulate layer, our Infra Red heating pad, a HiPora waterproof layer and then an anti bacterial inner Liner. With all the protection and all the layers it took us 18 months to figure out how to manufacture this glove. I guarantee no one will ever make a heated glove like this. Infra Red hat will never burn the user and battery life will be a lot longer. To make it even better we are developing the option to also have the same glove connect to your bike battery while the batteries are being charged. Hence the statement that this is the best heated glove in the world. Is it CE tested. Nope. But is it the safest heated Motorcycle glove in the world. Yes.

Our company has always prided itself by making products that consumers want and improving them via customer feedback. So my point really was to point out that there are no CE tested gloves in the market. :)


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Originally Posted by ssevy View Post
Actually, I thought that yours was:
"Yes our stuff meets CE specifications."

In the photo which you provided, your gloves appeared similar to my Velocity Gear Formula summer gloves, which do indeed have CE certification, and so I accepted your initial answer as being true based upon looks only. My clarification question was asked because the most recent CE certification is apparently not as stringent as the old, and I was wondering which standard your gloves met. Now I know that the correct answer is neither.

Unfortunately, you may be correct, and there may be no heated gloves that meet the new CE standard, let alone the older more stringent one. Were one available, it would, of course, only demonstrate that one sample pair had met the standard, and that the company had felt that spending the money on the certification process was a worthwhile investment and so could serve to separate the manufacturer from others offering a similar product, but some buyers such as myself still consider this certification to be meaningful.

I was not implying that your gloves were deficient, as they share many features with my CE certified pair. I was only asking for clarification of the standard as mentioned above. Even though your initial response regarding CE certification could be interpreted as untrue and misleading, I did not assume this was the case at all, and I was genuinely thanking you for clarifying the point.

As for this last post of yours, I am not sure what point you are making? My immediate reaction upon reading it was that I had somehow inadvertently struck a nerve.

As a manufacturer you should welcome interest and questions about your product, and if you have chosen not to do the CE certification route, then say so and tell us why. $300 is a big chunk of change, and I expect someone lightening my wallet by this amount to be honest and respectful towards me as a potential customer. My questions were not meant to be "gotcha", but your reaction implies that that is how they were received.
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