I have the silver/blue Sand 2 jacket that replaced my original Sand jacket. Many nice upgrades/fixes. I wish the original's collar clip back hook would have made it to the Sand 2. I miss hooking the collar tab back when it's warmer so I fold it inside which is just leaving a dirty mark on the collar. Also, the fit in the shoulder/armpit area is fine with no liners but with all liners installed, the armpit area is tighter than my original Sand. I'm not ripped by any means either.
A little more generous cut in this area would be nicer.
I like the Euro fit and and different liners to flow with the conditions. Like ChildlikeWonder says not every American is a fat ass. Thanks for a great product and listening to our critiques.